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Oh the warning you give to ozell that if one continues to judge the way you have accused ozell of judging, so then that God will judge you the exact same way, would equally apply to yourself.
WRONG AGAIN Gideon
Mt 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Jn 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
whatever comes out of the Lord mouth is a covenant.
do you understand this?
its is a law
it is fact
it is truth
it is final
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Ozell Christ Beloved ,
When you quote Matthew 4:4, did you not read Matthew 4:3?In which the Devil tried testing Jesus to get Him to turn Stones into Bread right?
Doesn't that says a great deal? Revealation for you, the Devil asking Christ to find His Norishment in the 10 Commandments which were engrave with the finger of GOD in Stones
How on earth i make this 'assumption' & on whose Authority?
Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? "Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman."
Paul was setting the standard in Typology which Christ spoke off in :-
Matthew 13:52 Then He said to them, "Therefore every scribe instructed concerning the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure [things] new and old."
Romans 4:3 For the promise that he would be the heir of the world [was] not to Abraham or to his seed through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Romans 4:14 For if those who are of the law [are] heirs, faith is made void and the promise made of no effect,
If what you say for ppl to take you seriously that whatever the Word of GOD says are:-
its is a law
it is fact
it is truth
it is final
Then are you/your church/ pastors practicing this?
Matthew 5:30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast [it] from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.
Matthew 18:8 "If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast [it] from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire.
Matthew 18: 9 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast [it] from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire.
If you're like the Scribes & Pharisees who advocate Law to the point of LOWERING in to the level you're comfortable with then assume cutting off your boidly parts isn't an option (or is it? maybe you have-do share please which parts you;ve cut off) then maybe this works less painfull for you?
or is it?
Luke 18:22 So when Jesus heard these things, He said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."
Btw, do you not know each Gospel has it's own Targeted audience? Gospel of Matthew was written specifically to the Jews who were very anti-Christ, oh believe you're skilled & worth your own salt to have known this small Insignificant detail
Then are you/your church/ pastors practicing this?
Matthew 5:30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast [it] from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.
Matthew 18:8 "If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast [it] from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire.
Matthew 18: 9 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast [it] from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire.
God forgives my sins . it is an every day reality . and i am in Him . your questions come from a faulty premise . so i have nothing left to expound upon than what i have already said .
but regarding the metaphor of the unjust servant if you continue to judge the way you are judging God will judge you the exact same way . i know it . been there done that .
James 2:13
because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment!
yes . been there . done that .
it was a friendly warning .
Jesus death and resurrection DID NOT replace the commandments.
What was the gospel that they accepted? That by God's grace, through faith ALONE (in Christ Jesus) they would become children of The Almighty God.I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned! - Galatians 1:6-9
The grace of God and the law (referring to the commandments) have nothing to do with one another. They are diametrically opposed to one another. They are enemies. That's why Romans 8:2 says -We are Jews by nature and not sinners from among the Gentiles; nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.
"But if, while seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have also been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? May it never be!
"For if I rebuild what I have once destroyed, I prove myself to be a transgressor.
"For through the Law I died to the Law, so that I might live to God. "I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me
"I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly." - Galatians 2:15-21
In a sense you are correct. His death and resurrection did not replace the commandments. His death and resurrection destroyed them utterly.because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.
No, but He fulfilled them. That means more than He just picks up the slack when we fail to uphold them.
So if Jesus Christ did not fulfill the commandments why would God send Him into the world to be a propitiation? What would the point be?
The grace of God and the law (referring to the commandments) have nothing to do with one another. They are diametrically opposed to one another. They are enemies. That's why Romans 8:2 says -
In a sense you are correct. His death and resurrection did not replace the commandments. His death and resurrection destroyed them utterly.
How do you see the meaning of fulfill? Because the same bible tells us that if we have love we will fulfill the law. Fulfill means to accomplish or bring into fullness. Jesus fulfilling the law means that he brought it to full understanding showing how the law goes beyond just the mere words but even in thoughts one can violate the law.
Ok... so God blotted out the easy (sacrificing animals and following ceremonial rules) but He left the impossible in place (the law)? Does that even make sense? There's absolutely no logic to that reasoning. What you've just claimed is that Christ was slaughtered by the Father on the cross for the sole purpose of making null and void our need to follow rituals.These things are not linked. The plan of Salvation was made from the beginning. Before the cross the blood of bulls and goats atoned for sin representing his blood. I don't see the link between Jesus fulfilling the law and him being a propitiation for our sins. Unless you are speaking of the law of ceremonies and ordinances in which case he blotted out by his death on the cross.
By fulfilling the law He regained the favor and goodwill of God for all who would believe. That's the link. If He had no been an atoning sacrifice we would still be under the law (commandments, ceremonial)propitiate: to gain or regain the favor or goodwill of : appease
Actually what it's showing is that as much as Paul wants to do good works through his own strength it is impossible. He even writes and tells readers that he is a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. (Romans 7:23) He then asks who will rescue him-You need to read chapter 7 properly. Paul clearly shows that the law of sin and death is different to the law of God.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
He doesn't ask "who HAS rescued me?", but he asks "who WILL rescue me?" which clearly indicates that Paul is still a prisoner in his own body to sin. Which of course means he does not keep the law. Because if he kept the law he would not be a prisoner to "this body of death"What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? - Romans 7:24
Yes Paul wants to keep the law of God and yes the law of sin is warring against him. Again you are correct in saying that yielding to the law of sin results in death and that's exactly why Christ died as the final sacrifice. Because God knows that no man born of human parents can EVER keep from yielding to sin. No matter what we might desire to do in our mind, no matter how much we might wish we could do good works to please God and keep all of his commandments (the law) it will never happen.Follow it correctly. Paul wants to keep the law of God in his mind but the law of sin is warring against him. When he yields to that law of sin, death is the result. When you are made delivered from the law of sin and death you are free to serve the law of God.
Jesus did indeed boost up the law, but NOT the law of sin and death. The law of love. The law of sin and death He abolished BUT... only for those who do not falsely claim to obey it. In other words faith saves, but anyone who says they keep the law then that person is expected to obey the very letter of the law to the utmost. That's why He saidThe bible says exactly the opposite. You are saying that not only did he come to fulfill but he also destroyed.
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
What is the significance of the word 'but'. That shows contrast. Fulfill must then be opposite to destroy. To destroy is to tear down something. So to fulfill must be to build it up. To Fill Full. To boost it up. That is what Jesus did to the law.
What He's telling us is that if we wish to be under the law that's fine, but we are then expected to obey EVERYTHING 100% of the time (the smallest letter, the least stroke of a pen). Or we can choose grace.I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. - Matthew 5:18
yep by completing it he changed it from follow all laws within the torah and if you don't you must make a blood sacrafice (of a specific nature, based on the offense) or be killed (if the offense was one declared worthy of such a penalty) to follow the laws of the Torah, now however you can be forgiven by the father without blood sacrafice.. and you are no longer to be killed imediately for certain offenses.. so therefore he replaced the "law of sin and death" just as paul stated so elequantly
There is no law, aside from the two great commandments, left to obey. Yes, we fulfill the law by love and yes by love we accomplish what the law set out to show us we can't do.
Jesus fulfilling the law means He did it in our place. That's the whole point of Christ. We, you, myself, everyone else in the world CAN NOT EVER fulfill the law. None of us can EVER obey it. It is impossible. Not just hard, not merely something we need to work at but it is entirely impossible to obey the law.
Even the law of love, of which there are only two, is impossible to obey. Anyone aside from Christ Jesus who claims to obey the law is a liar and such a claim proves they do not obey the law of sin and death.
You are correct in saying that "even in thought one can violate the law". You would be even more correct to say "even in our thoughts we constantly violate the law"
Ok... so God blotted out the easy (sacrificing animals and following ceremonial rules) but He left the impossible in place (the law)? Does that even make sense? There's absolutely no logic to that reasoning. What you've just claimed is that Christ was slaughtered by the Father on the cross for the sole purpose of making null and void our need to follow rituals.
I'll agree that the plan of salvation has been from the beginning. That's not even up for discussion. How can you not see the connection between Christ fulfilling the law and being a propitiation?
]Jesus did indeed boost up the law, but NOT the law of sin and death. The law of love. The law of sin and death He abolished BUT... only for those who do not falsely claim to obey it. In other words faith saves, but anyone who says they keep the law then that person is expected to obey the very letter of the law to the utmost. That's why He said
What He's telling us is that if we wish to be under the law that's fine, but we are then expected to obey EVERYTHING 100% of the time (the smallest letter, the least stroke of a pen). Or we can choose grace.
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