What is your "endtime" view?

zeke37 said:

well, we agree on the numerology walt, and most do not agree with me...

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Numerology is what I don't agree with ,but gemartria is a different story.
gemartria is biblical ,numerology is man tinkering with No's .
I might be wrong ,but I like to have the biblical approach.walt2000

walt2000 said:

Numerology is what I don't agree with ,but gemartria is a different story.
gemartria is biblical ,numerology is man tinkering with No's .
I might be wrong ,but I like to have the biblical approach.walt2000

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well, that is what I meant....biblical numerology...what ever name is given to it...my understanding of the significance of the biblical numbers, mirrors your post...

I see so much error when people do as done in bible2's post...

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I'll tell you a story about how I got started with this .
I was looking for some pictures to paint ,down the panhandle of Alaska in northern B.C. in Canada ,the wife and kids ,a German Shepard and pup tent ,and me..
We were about midway, and I got a number stuck in my head ,27072 .Well that number was there ,and I could not get it out.It was a weird thing ,It would not leave me , when I got home ,I was talking to a friend of my daughters about this number .That I had stuck in my head for two years now.She said that, that no. sounds like my fathers gemartria ,as they were Jewish. I asked her to ask her
father if he new what, or if that meant any thing in Jewish.
about two weeks later she told me, that she asked her Rabbi, and he asked her where she got this no. from.And was surprised This should stick in my head.
He said it was a gemartria no. 27 = the no. of books in the old testament.2= union,7= pefection
.Or Revelations of the word ,prophecy.
The 0 was a spacer and was meant to separate the two no.s from each other.The no. came out to Danial and Revelations.And the 72 had a great significance to the Jew,It also meant the 72 names of God.Any way to cut a long story short, it also meant the two books were a reflection of one another.So of coarse I read them .And I found out that I could understand them.
Seven Visions of Dan. and Seven Thunders of Revelations.So I took what I had to the church and they,well ,may as well say they kicked me out. Some lead me out ,and some just changed the subject.
In other words ,I was alone .But I had this great desire to read the two books over and over again and again.I must have read the bible ten times to see how I could be so wrong.10 hours a day seven days a week my wife thought I was in trouble in the head ,When I closed my eyes at night to sleep It was there.Night after night.I went on sleeping pills,so I could get some sleep.That is when this chart came to me.It all made sense ,and all the other churches were wrong .
I decided to write my version down,showed it to more churches and they just as well as they were before toss,lead,changed the subject.Over and over again.
Just for the fun of it I counted the pages in my book and guess what 72 page's.
And that is not all ,I had a dream.

Two birds were making a commotion in the peak of our house ,I was in bed with the wife ,and told her to look at the peak of the house ,I got out of bed and had a look see.
when I got closer I could see that there was a big pure white bird with it's wings wrapped around a little gray bird,protecting it, so of coarse I yelled at the wife, to come and see this.
Mean while I made it down stairs ,and went outside to see why the birds were acting this way.There was a long thin gray,black cloud over my house ,from horizon to horizon ,scaring the hell out of the little gray bird.
Well this is when I really belted out, to the wife ,scaring her half to death. She jumped out of bed , we were sleeping .Well It turned out that I was just happening to have a dream.In color and 3d.

And that is not all about two years later, I got this letter about the dream I had ,he was a minister from the states ,he said that only I could know what this dream meant ,he new about, and interpreted the dream.
Well He didn't know me and I didn't know him from Adam .But he had the interpretation to my dream.
The dream said that I was going to have trouble with a lot of people about the numbers ,and the interpretation ,of my dream.
That is how I got to read Revelations ,and have trouble with it .You figure.walt2000

I guess there go's any credibility I might have had.But it is true.
For this I was kicked out of the catholic church.walt2000

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things which are Seven Thunders

Hay I'm not banned yet,that has to be some thing.walt2000

Quite frankly your experience does sound like mental illness to me Walt, so I can't blame your wife there. It sounds like you're an obsessive compulsive, perhaps among other things. Doing anything 70 hours a week is abnormal. The chart-making and numerology are the icing on the cake.

heavensblade23 said:

Quite frankly your experience does sound like mental illness to me Walt, so I can't blame your wife there. It sounds like you're an obsessive compulsive, perhaps among other things. Doing anything 70 hours a week is abnormal. The chart-making and numerology are the icing on the cake.

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Thanks for your Dr's opinion it is germatria ,not numerology.You sound like a fun person.Christianity, I love it ,Cant understand it so it doe's not exist,Prove me wrong .walt2000

heavensblade23 said:

Quite frankly your experience does sound like mental illness to me Walt, so I can't blame your wife there. It sounds like you're an obsessive compulsive, perhaps among other things. Doing anything 70 hours a week is abnormal. The chart-making and numerology are the icing on the cake.

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Thanks for your Dr,s opinion ,can you prove me wrong ,walt2000

walt2000 said:

Thanks for your Dr's opinion it is germatria ,not numerology.You sound like a fun person.Christianity, I love it ,Cant understand it so it doe's not exist,Prove me wrong .walt2000

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Gematria IS a system of numerology. What else would it be? I'm not trying to prove you wrong, I'm just pointing out that you seem obsessed with this stuff. Obsession is rarely healthy regardless of the object.

When you need multiple charts to explain your religious views it's time to take a step back.

It sounds like you're an obsessive compulsive, perhaps among other things. Your probably right,Sound like some one studying religion,to a conclusion to me.
Both of my children graduated university are they the same?One got the highest marks in her class and they gave her a award,the other got top marks to, it must be catchy. Do you think? .walt2000

walt2000 said:

Your probably right,Sound like some one studying religion,to a conclusion to me.

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No, someone studying the Bible 70 hours a week is though. That's almost 2 full time jobs worth. Taking anything to that extreme is a bad idea.

Talk to an actual doctor and tell him how much time you spent on it, show him your charts, and he'll probably refer you to a psychiatrist.

heavensblade23
Look up the significance of numbers in scripture.
www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/The%20Significance%20of%20Numbers%20i...
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Both ,St. Jerome and Pope St Gregory the Great wrote extensively about and gemartria it's significance in scripture. Sir Isaac Newton wrote more about gemartria and numbers in scripture ,then he did about the theory of gravity. Doe's this make them obsessive compulsive to ? I don,t put my self in their place ,or even near them, but they are pretty heavy people don't you think?
As for my theory, am I not allowed one ?Prove me wrong .
And how long did they hit the books ?walt2000

heavensblade23 said:

No, someone studying the Bible 70 hours a week is though. That's almost 2 full time jobs worth. Taking anything to that extreme is a bad idea.

Talk to an actual doctor and tell him how much time you spent on it, show him your charts, and he'll probably refer you to a psychiatrist.

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It might turn them into a Christian to. Knowing that most all the books on the subject have to be changed.walt2000

walt2000 said:

heavensblade23
Look up the significance of numbers in scripture.
www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/The%20Significance%20of%20Numbers%20i...
Page 13 I quote
Both ,St. Jerome and Pope St Gregory the Great wrote extensively about and gemartria it's significance in scripture. Sir Isaac Newton wrote more about gemartria and numbers in scripture ,then he did about the theory of gravity. Doe's this make them obsessive compulsive to ? I don,t put my self in their place ,or even near them, but they are pretty heavy people don't you think?
As for my theory, am I not allowed one ?Prove me wrong .
And how long did they hit the books ?walt2000

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You're allowed to have all the theories you want, it's no skin off my back.

walt2000 said:

It might turn them into a Christian to. Knowing that most all the books on the subject have to be changed.walt2000

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That's called delusions of grandeur, believing that you have all the answers that everyone else missed.

heavensblade23 said:

That's called delusions of grandeur, believing that you have all the answers that everyone else missed.

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Don't you think I just might just be right? Did you study the variations on the subject?And they can't all be right.
Or do you think every thing has to be done with prosaic .walt2000

And delusion, or not ,they seem to have missed the boat here.walt2000

Did I hear some place ,blessed is he that hear , and understand.walt2000