What is your "endtime" view?

[walt2000]

Sorry Walt. I've viewed several dozens of such charts and in the very process of CHARTING you TOO have 'added' to the Words of Revelation. There were NO CHARTS therein.

What you have perpetually asked others in this thread to DO is to BOW DOWN TO YOUR CHARTS which actions in itself speaks for the IDOLOTRY that it is. The Words of Revelation are not CHARTS, but the reality of CHRIST in us who is FAR beyond 'charting' and enclosing in little lines and squares and circles that NONE but YOU and your IDOL can understand.

enjoy!

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You actually fail to not see a sequential ,and series of events happening ,seven times, to the seven Churches?

Now don,t Get me wrong but you ,are titled,you must be trying not to, it is so self evident .Your being a

With a Prologue in the front and a epilogue at the end.
And a Seven fold duologue in the middle. That is either you are
trying not to ,because of some prier agenda,or you just see but not see.Your being a
Life View Fundamentalist May be the thing that is holding you back.
And I have only one chart out there if you seen this one before it was mine .

The arrangement of Christs word, into a series of sequential events,is not placing ,or adding ,or changing the meaning ,of said duologue .
It is in exact sequence to the way the word came out of the mouth of Christ.

I have had thousands of thousands ,of people look into this ,over the thirty + years,and they look and see.
Like I said ,You are in-titled .Some people see ,but will not see. Blessed is he that sees, and under stand.
Chick ,of this forum, spotted it instantly.And there are no chart's in Revelations that is precisely why it was hidden for the time it was,Hidden in sequence and gemartria.
A Seven dimensional happening ,all happening all happening at the same time.Sorry .Keep looking into it It, took me a long time to see this ,It may take you the same time.Thank for your input.walt2000

 

[squint]

You actually fail to not see a sequential ,and series of events happening ,seven times, to the seven Churches?

A general note in that much of what any of us 'see' is more of a reflection of our own hearts upon the matters.

Now don,t Get me wrong but you ,are titled,you must be trying not to, it is so self evident .

What is self evident Walt? That in all but one church that works and actions of satan were addressed?

With a Prologue in the front and a epilogue at the end.
And a Seven fold duologue in the middle. That is either you are
trying not to ,because of some prier agenda,or you just see but not see.

And I have only one chart out there if you seen this one before it was mine .

I've seen several dozens of charts, yours one of many. The common denominator being every chartist worships his own chart, talks in circles to unwind them and condemns others for not bowing to them. So what else is new in the world of chartists?

The arrangement of Christs word, into a series of sequential events,is not placing ,or adding ,or changing the meaning ,of said duologue .
It is in exact sequence to the way the word came out of the mouth of Christ.

Resulting in what Walt? Is there a chase you'd like to cut to?

I have had thousands of thousands ,of people look into this ,over the thirty + years,and they look and see.
Like I said ,You are in-titled .Some people see ,but will not see. Blessed is he that sees, and under stand.
Chick ,of this forum, spotted it instantly.And there are no chart's in Revelations that is precisely why it was hidden for the time it was,Hidden in sequence and gemartria.
A Seven dimensional happening ,all happening all happening at the same time.Sorry .Keep looking into it It, took me a long time to see this ,It may take you the same time.Thank for your input.walt2000

That you draw lines are ovals around and through your chart?

 

[walt2000]

Hello there...

there's a few good ones...not many IMO, but a few..


He did tell us all things, through the Prophets and to the disciples...He is the Word of God...and ALL of Scripture is His Word.


yep...much of it...all the Seals for example....even in a row..(same order as Christ's warnings in the Gospels Olivette prophesies)


Sure He did...He said AFTER....in Mat24:29-31, Mark13:24-27, making the timing of Christ's arrival post tribulation...making our time here now, pre millennial. Christ is the one who taught us what the mark is...what you think and what you do....remember that He is the Word of God...


everything


pardon me? Christ certainly did tell us...Mat24:3 and forward...and Mar13 as well...even Luke21 tells us many events (some may argue).


well, we can all be mistaken about what Christ said(translation), or meant(our understanding of the scripture), even if we rely on just Christ's own spoken words...that is, if we are being honest

we all have opinions...and judgement starts with the teachers...so you'd better be sure...if it is opinion, state it as such...if you are so absolutely sure of your understanding that you teach it as fact, then you are (as I understand it) bound to that...and have to pay a price if you led others astray with your teaching.

Many will follow the anitChrist(Satan) when he comes pretending to be Messiah, and be led astray by teachers that may love God, but failed and led the flock into believing the lie...and into Satan's camp......(Ez44)

...Biblical terms to explain the Bible. Why not? If you can use only Biblical terms to explain your theory, you have a half way chance to be correct. That seems to be what Jesus encouraged when He said do not add to or take away from his testimony. The problem with this, if one does not use operationally defined terms, vernacular terms, and stuff people never heard or read about in the Bible, we will not be able to sell a lot of books and stuff. Do you get the point? [/quote]
we are to use the whole Word of God to interpret scripture...well over half of the Revelation of Jesus Christ given to John, is prophesies from the OT prophetic books...told in much the same langauge...we are to understand the symbolisms of the NT prophesies only by being first familiar with the teacher (the OT prophesies)...

I mean, if the 4 winds show up in different OT prophetic books, shouldn't we consider them ALL so as to better understand Rev7?

in His service
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zeke37

I don,t agree with the first part of your duologue but, HAY.you are a watchman.
I don't make any statements of my own in my chart, it is all out of ,and undeluted,truth from the K.G.V.of the bible.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

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A general note in that much of what any of us 'see' is more of a reflection of our own hearts upon the matters.



What is self evident Walt? That in all but one church that works and actions of satan were addressed?



I've seen several dozens of charts, yours one of many. The common denominator being every chartist worships his own chart, talks in circles to unwind them and condemns others for not bowing to them. So what else is new in the world of chartists?



Resulting in what Walt? Is there a chase you'd like to cut to?



That you draw lines are ovals around and through your chart?

Those lines and ovals ,as you call them are similaritys between the thunders.And the area around the Thunders are really self explanatory.

GET MY CHART AND LOOK.

7 the top horizontal line is Christ's victory,in yellow.
6 next horizontal line is in Red ,The no. of Man.
5 line next is Christ's protection,souls protected,Come up my people.Word
4 line from the top is the no. of Earth.
3 line is the trinity no.Father(God),Son Of (God),Holy spirit, Word of (God)
2 this line is the union With (God)
1 is the no. of unity,(God)
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7 promises to the church's on the Earth ,things Thu seen,with (God)

The first four 1,2,3,4, are the four spirits that roam the Earth.

7 th.Thunder vertically is mystery Babylon White horse winner on Earth.
6 th. Thunder vertically is man.on Earth
5.th. Thunder vertically is Babylon Fallen Preaching to the Earth.

4.th. Thunder vertically is The word on the Earth.
3 rd. Thunder vertically is witnesses on Earth.
2 nd. Thunder vertically is union with Christ on Earth.
1 st. Thunder vertically is White horse ,winner with Christ on Earth.

5,6,7 is the consequences of the word .The trinity on Earth

even a
Fundamentalist Should see that lay ed out.To not see that, is a disservice,two the author.
look how the victory lines up at the top.
look how the winepress's line up ,next down.
look at Earth Quakes and the Great river line up horizontally.
look at the promised White clothed protection line up horizontally.
look how come up my people lines up with come out my people.
look how the seals,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 line up with the trumpets,and vials line up with each other.
look how wormwood on water,blood on water,line up
look how burning mountain in sea ,and blood on sea ,line up.
look how the two Babylons line up with each other.
look how The Thunders start with a White Horse,and end with a White horse .

And that is just ten item's,there are gemartria connections yet to them all ..

AND YOU SAY THAT YOU DO NOT SEE THIS .You are giving
Fundamentalist

around the World a bad name.
Don't You Know that deliberately refusing the word of God, is equally as bad as having the chance ,and not excepting it ,as not being saved ,in the first place .
There is no room for ignorance of the law.If you knew not the law,that is different,you now know it.It has now been reveled.walt2000

 

[squint]

GET MY CHART AND LOOK.

AND YOU SAY THAT YOU DO NOT SEE THIS .You are giving
Fundamentalist

around the World a bad name.
Don't You Know that deliberately refusing the word of God, is equally as bad as having the chance ,and not excepting it ,as not being saved ,in the first place .
There is no room for ignorance of the law.If you knew not the law,that is different,you now know it.It has now been reveled.walt2000

I am not interested in BOWING TO YOUR CHART.

Only THE LAMB can loose the SEALS meaning to PROVIDE UNDERSTANDING and ACTIONS of the BOOK/WORD. No MAN will be 'doing that.' Where is THAT on yer chart?

YOUR desire on the other hand as it is WITH ALL CHARTISTS is to LOOSE the SEALS yourSELF and demand that OTHERS bow to YOUR IDOL of understandings OR to CONDEMN them as I stated would happen BEFORE you condemned me for NOT BOWING.

This is a part of the BEHEADING of believers that you are engaged with in this practice. I do not blame YOU of course. There are far more interesting 'forces' at work in these matters that your CHART does not and CANNOT see let alone address.

enjoy!

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[walt2000]

I am not interested in BOWING TO YOUR CHART.

Only THE LAMB can loose the SEALS meaning to PROVIDE UNDERSTANDING and ACTIONS of the BOOK/WORD. No MAN will be 'doing that.' Where is THAT on yer chart?

YOUR desire on the other hand as it is WITH ALL CHARTISTS is to LOOSE the SEALS yourSELF and demand that OTHERS bow to YOUR IDOL of understandings OR to CONDEMN them as I stated would happen BEFORE you condemned me for NOT BOWING.

This is a part of the BEHEADING of believers that you are engaged with in this practice. I do not blame YOU of course. There are far more interesting 'forces' at work in these matters that your CHART does not and CANNOT see let alone address.

enjoy!

squint

SORRY YOU ARE TAKING THIS SO HARD ,HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE RELEASING OF POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT .The bible has a gestalt about it .Christ had to die to relese the holy spirit .And the lamb is the holy spirit.He has the power to open the Seals ,and to shut them, and he did.He opened that what was sealed.
P.S. you don't have to bow down to my chart,It is just information that is all.And why he picked on me to understand ,this, is beyond me,I wish he gave it to Chick or someone else. I am not here to try to convert you to any thing, that is the job of Christ walt2000

 

[squint]

SORRY YOU ARE TAKING THIS SO HARD ,HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE RELEASING OF POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT .

By what? Bowing to your chart?

The bible has a gestalt about it .Christ had to die to relese the holy spirit .And the lamb is the holy spirit.He has the power to open the Seals ,and to shut them, and he did.He opened that what was sealed.
P.S. you don't have to bow down to my chart,It is just information that is all.And why he picked on me to understand ,this, is beyond me,I wish he gave it to Chick or someone else. I am not here to try to convert you to any thing, that is the job of Christ walt2000

Well thank you for at least a MODICUM of truth!

Understanding and CONVEYANCE is an entirely different subject eh?

If you knew how many people have such charts and that down to the last chartist THEY CONDEMN other people with their charts, you may not be so readily mis-used. Is CONDEMNATION the purpose of CHARTS?

Perhaps I may ask you WHO IS IT that Revelation is CONDEMNING but EVIL that has taken hold of the hearts of mankind? Can your CHART rid you of THAT? Can your CHART take away YOUR SINS? Can your CHART actually LOVE your neighbors as yourself?

If not, I may not so readily rely upon it.

enjoy!

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[walt2000]

O.K. let's call a truce ,If I were a Fundamentalist We would still see things diffrently ,The word of God is meant to be studied.We will Have to agree not to agree .walt2000

 

[walt2000]

I can't believe the ignorance out there.Even with proof.
Did Christ Die for nothing?The Earth is 6000 years old,you are going to tattoo your self's with 666 so the Devil can claim you.And The anti Christ is waiting to lop of you head ,the Earth is going to die in 2012 .You are going to all move into a great big tall building made of solid Gold ,and float in the clouds for ever with 72 virgins .You people want to believe that swill ? I am going to take a rest. I'll keep on trying.
Christ better have one sense of humor.Mine is gone for now.walt2000

 

[squint]

I can't believe the ignorance out there.Even with proof.

Walt, if you take some snippets from Rev. and put them in a box and draw ovals and lines through them it doesn't make you a prophet, OK? I can read the book as well.

The Word (moreso than your personal 'chart') is a DISCERNER of our HEARTS is it not? Even the book of Rev. IS this way. So what has THAT BOOK reflected from YOU? A mere CHART? One which you call other believers IGNORANT for if they say SO WHAT? You've made plenty of baldfaced assertions about other believers (like me) who say such 'tools' are MEANINGLESS, particularly when used to CONDEMN others or call them IGNORANT, not to mention a veritable plethora of other meaningless DEMANDS such as the 'book' being STAND ALONE.

But you wouldn't be the first person I've met on the ground of Revelation who got locked into their own head on these matters and MOST never come back out again. They get stranded on their own little island and DEMAND that to 'fellowship' you have to agree with of all things A CHART that YOU drew. Don't forget the 'special revealtion to WALT part either.

Word is also meant to be PEACEFULLY SHARED amongst us. That would be WORD, not yer CHART. OK?

Did Christ Die for nothing?

He certainly didn't die and RESURRECT so that you could make a CHART to beat others with did He?

The Earth is 6000 years old,

Don't really recall seeing this in Revelation.

you are going to tattoo your self's with 666 so the Devil can claim you.

I won't be looking for some external tatoo's in these matters either NOR do I believe that the DEVIL defeats God in Christ and His Word, Work and Will which is ultimately what REVELATION IS about along with the ENTIRETY of the balance of His Word. The DEVIL will be PERMANENTLY set aside. The 'difficulty' in these matters is that the DEVIL was clearly shown by Jesus to be WITHIN the flesh of MANKIND. God's Word will PULL that one OUT into the open. So surprise!

And The anti Christ is waiting to lop of you head

The 'anti-Christ' has been very busy STEALING GOD'S WORDS from people's heads for a considerably LONG time now. So again I won't be looking EXTERNALLY for the 'beheading.' That WORK WILL BE HALTED, and soon I hope and pray.

,the Earth is going to die in 2012 .

Don't recall seeing that date either amongst the many hundreds of other dates that guessers put forth. It could happen in the next twinkling of an eye as far as I know.

You are going to all move into a great big tall building made of solid Gold ,and float in the clouds for ever with 72 virgins .

Not that I'm aware of. It has not yet ENTERED into the minds and hearts of THOSE WHO LOVE HIM what HE has prepared for US eh?

You people want to believe that swill ? I am going to take a rest. I'll keep on trying.
Christ better have one sense of humor.Mine is gone for now.walt2000

Your chart is meaningless to me Walt. Sorry to inform you. Doesn't mean I'd think any less of you as a 'real' person. OK?

enjoy!

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[Biblewriter]

I can't believe the ignorance out there.Even with proof.
Did Christ Die for nothing?The Earth is 6000 years old,you are going to tattoo your self's with 666 so the Devil can claim you.And The anti Christ is waiting to lop of you head ,the Earth is going to die in 2012 .You are going to all move into a great big tall building made of solid Gold ,and float in the clouds for ever with 72 virgins .You people want to believe that swill ? I am going to take a rest. I'll keep on trying.
Christ better have one sense of humor.Mine is gone for now.walt2000

This, from the man that insists that we take everything from the book of Revelation(to which he insists on adding an s).

You are not only adding to the book of Revelation. You are adding to the sum total of the revealed word of God.

The Bible most absolutely does not say that the earth is 6000 years old. it says that man has been here for six thousand years. it says the earth was here before man was created, but does not even hint at how long it was here before that time. If you check the Hebrew words used, you will see that Isaiah 45:18 distinctly states that God did not create the world in the condition described in Genesis 1:2. It is not only the same Hebrew word that is used in both places, it is the same form of the same Hebrew word.

Nothing anywhere in the Bible even hints at the idea that the world will end in 2012. But numerous scriptures plainly show that this conclusion is impossible. Among those are the ones that explicitly define a thousand year period that will take place between now and the end of the world. (Revelation 20:2-7)

Are you deny the reality of the holy city described in Revelation 21:9-27?

The seventy-top virgins are obviously sarcasm, but that is inappropriate in such a forum as this.

 

[walt2000]

This, from the man that insists that we take everything from the book of Revelation(to which he insists on adding an s).
By the way I noted at the outset ,that I was takeing that liberty.ie.Revelations
You are not only adding to the book of Revelation. You are adding to the sum total of the revealed word of God.

John's Apocalypse,known as the Book of Revelation .which one suits you?

Look to my posts I did note it this, the Revelation of Christ to john,If you read
But that denotes singularity.A single event.One event happening .
I say,
Seven Thunders of Revelations denotes plurality,
Seven Thunders, Seven church's ,
Seven candle sticks,
comes up as plural to me.and I noted that.

It was reveled to me as a plural event.

And that is what helped hide the inept. For so many years.The ancients were looking for a single event happening,
I am saying it is a multi.(plural )event.

So I call it revelations.I wrote the book,are you saying ,The revelation of Christ to john Doe's not have revelations in it?

It is a seven dimensional happening,all happening at the same event.
It is the Revelations of the seven thunders. Or Seven Thunders of Revelation Can you work with that?
That is a point though,So through the baby out with the bath water.For the want of an "s".walt2000

 

[zeke37]

This, from the man that insists that we take everything from the book of Revelation(to which he insists on adding an s).

You are not only adding to the book of Revelation. You are adding to the sum total of the revealed word of God.

The Bible most absolutely does not say that the earth is 6000 years old. it says that man has been here for six thousand years.

Hi....actually it does not say that at all...but we can conclude that ADAM was formed app. 6000 years ago...but I believe mankind was created possibly 1-2 days before that, in Gen1...and Adam after the day of rest, in Gen2...(most assume that it is a retelling of Day 6)...so IMO, mankind could have been here 1000-2000 years before Adam....just sayin'!

it says the earth was here before man was created, but does not even hint at how long it was here before that time. If you check the Hebrew words used, you will see that Isaiah 45:18 distinctly states that God did not create the world in the condition described in Genesis 1:2. It is not only the same Hebrew word that is used in both places, it is the same form of the same Hebrew word.

YEP! Correct...there is an unknown time between Gen1:1 and Gen1:2..the earth BECAME a vain/wasted undistinguishable ruin...(Hebrew)

tohu bohu in Hebrew....

Nothing anywhere in the Bible even hints at the idea that the world will end in 2012.

YEP! Correct...that is a belief based on another cultures calander, and certainly is not in Revelation

But numerous scriptures plainly show that this conclusion is impossible. Among those are the ones that explicitly define a thousand year period that will take place between now and the end of the world. (Revelation 20:2-7)

YEP! Correct, perhaps he meant end of the age, when Christ returns...

Are you deny the reality of the holy city described in Revelation 21:9-27?

The seventy-top virgins are obviously sarcasm, but that is inappropriate in such a forum as this.

muslim?

This, from the man that insists that we take everything from the book of Revelation(to which he insists on adding an s).

You are not only adding to the book of Revelation. You are adding to the sum total of the revealed word of God.

Look to my posts I did note it this, the Revelation of Christ to john,If you read
But that denotes singularity.A single event.One event happening .
I say,
Seven Thunders of Revelations denotes plurality,Seven Thunders, Seven church's ,Seven candle sticks,comes up as plural to me.and I noted that.

It was reveled to me as a plural event.

And that is what helped hide the inept. For so many years.The ancients were looking for a single event happening,
I am saying it is a multi.(plural )event.

So I call it revelations.I wrote the book,are you saying ,The revelation of Christ to john Doe's not have revelations in it?

It is a seven dimensional happening,all happening at the same event.
It is the Revelations of the seven thunders. Or Seven Thunders of Revelation Can you work with that?
That is a point though,So through the baby out with the bath water.For the want of an "s".walt2000

while I agree that there are several "angles/views" showing the same event(s)...beyond that I don't really know what to say to you!

 

[walt2000]

Hi....actually it does not say that at all...but we can conclude that ADAM was formed app. 6000 years ago...but I believe mankind was created possibly 1-2 days before that, in Gen1...and Adam after the day of rest, in Gen2...(most assume that it is a retelling of Day 6)...so IMO, mankind could have been here 1000-2000 years before Adam....just sayin'!


YEP! Correct...there is an unknown time between Gen1:1 and Gen1:2..the earth BECAME a vain/wasted undistinguishable ruin...(Hebrew)

tohu bohu in Hebrew....


YEP! Correct...that is a belief based on another cultures calander, and certainly is not in Revelation


YEP! Correct, perhaps he meant end of the age, when Christ returns...



muslim?



while I agree that there are several "angles/views" showing the same event(s)...beyond that I don't really know what to say to you!

You just said it ,it is my thesis it says it is a multi .plural event.
and it is nice to know that there is some men , with brains on this fourm, I should leave well enough alone, but it needs to be said.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

And I like the no holds barred.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

And I like the no holds barred.

P.S. There seems to be a lot of end time talk , coming from certain Christian Religions ,I wouldn't take to much credence in them. As far as I remember I was through a lest five or six extinctions now ,Christ Him self will show you the sign's ,It is not the End time Yet.walt2000

No end Time yet.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

main chart.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

 

[Kingdom_Come]

I’m a little late to this thread. I guess the closest thing that I would associate my view with is post trib/pre mil. From my understanding of Scripture we have been in the “last days” since the inception of the church. Many things prophesied have already come to pass and there are still many things yet to come. One of the reasons I think this, besides so much persecution of Christians for which we have ample historical evidence which seems to be some prophetic fulfillment, is because of what Peter said on the day of Pentecost, (Acts 2:16-17) “But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:”. To clarify I see the “last days” in terms of a “day” as it is with God; not a literal 24 hour earth day. Therefore we have been in the “last days” for the past 2000 years (approx). Now we know that Peter said “…one day is with the Lord as a thousand years…” (2 Pet 3:8) and some may argue whether this is literally true or simply meant to indicate that to God a day is much longer than it is to us. Either way it seems clear that God sees a “day” very differently than we do.

So when the Scripture talks about the “Day of The Lord” I do not see this as simply referring to the 24 hour period of His return. Rather I see this as the “thousand years” spoken of in Revelation. This means that this “day” can encompass many events. This day dawns with what many call the great tribulation period and the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ to gather His elect and stop those things going on upon the earth which threaten humanity with extinction and begin to establish His kingdom and end with Satan’s last stand and defeat and the general resurrection of the rest of the dead to be judged. All are resurrected on the same “day”, just not at the same time on the same “day”. Both houses of Israel are unified as is written in Ezekiel on that day. This is one of the signs the Jews are looking for Messiah to fulfill. Christ rules the nations with a “rod of iron” on that day (Psa 2:9, Rev 2:27, Rev 12:5, Rev 19:5).

 

[walt2000]

I’m a little late to this thread. I guess the closest thing that I would associate my view with is post trib/pre mil. From my understanding of Scripture we have been in the “last days” since the inception of the church. Many things prophesied have already come to pass and there are still many things yet to come. One of the reasons I think this, besides so much persecution of Christians for which we have ample historical evidence which seems to be some prophetic fulfillment, is because of what Peter said on the day of Pentecost, (Acts 2:16-17) “But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:”. To clarify I see the “last days” in terms of a “day” as it is with God; not a literal 24 hour earth day. Therefore we have been in the “last days” for the past 2000 years (approx). Now we know that Peter said “…one day is with the Lord as a thousand years…” (2 Pet 3:8) and some may argue whether this is literally true or simply meant to indicate that to God a day is much longer than it is to us. Either way it seems clear that God sees a “day” very differently than we do.

So when the Scripture talks about the “Day of The Lord” I do not see this as simply referring to the 24 hour period of His return. Rather I see this as the “thousand years” spoken of in Revelation. This means that this “day” can encompass many events. This day dawns with what many call the great tribulation period and the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ to gather His elect and stop those things going on upon the earth which threaten humanity with extinction and begin to establish His kingdom and end with Satan’s last stand and defeat and the general resurrection of the rest of the dead to be judged. All are resurrected on the same “day”, just not at the same time on the same “day”. Both houses of Israel are unified as is written in Ezekiel on that day. This is one of the signs the Jews are looking for Messiah to fulfill. Christ rules the nations with a “rod of iron” on that day (Psa 2:9, Rev 2:27, Rev 12:5, Rev 19:5).

Tell me if you think, what you wrote above,is right,what is your interp. of Revelations .See my chart,see my reason,see my dream ,then tell me what do you think???

(Acts 2:16-17) “But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:”

This is the first bit of intelligence I heard for some time ,and would like this guys view on a few things.I may, or may not agree ,with him in totality ,but ???????
Read about my dream ,If you want different.walt2000