What is wrong in Mexico?

[OldWiseGuy]

Science is a tool. It can and has been used for both good and bad. Sometimes science outruns reasonable support for moderation. But you know what IS leading to the degradation/destruction of the environment?

CONSERVATIVE POLITICIANS WHO WANT TO SEE SCIENCE DENIGRATED/DENIED OR WHO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL TO KEEP SOLID SCIENCE FROM INFORMING ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY.

The science developed by the USDA that make your current quality of life in the modern era possible isn't always perfect and when abused can, indeed, lead to poor outcomes, especially when profit motives take over and businesses take a given scientific breakthrough to the absolute limit without considering what the ENTIRETY of the science says.

So remember: vote for politicians who see the value of public finance for science and who believe what the science says in totality at the end of the day.

In other words: don't vote for modern-day Republicans or Conservatives if you actually care about the environment

I think that ship has sailed.

Isn't it liberals who want to sue gun manufacturers as being responsible for gun violence. Why should science get a pass?

 

[theQuincunx5]

I think that ship has sailed.

Isn't it liberals who want to sue gun manufacturers as being responsible for gun violence. Why should science get a pass?

You are 100% right. Science is bad.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

You are 100% right. Science is bad.

Science should assume more responsibility for the misuse of it's developments. They hand a 'child' a loaded 'gun' then assume innocence when the 'child' 'shoots' someone or themselves.

 

[theQuincunx5]

Science should assume more responsibility for the misuse of it's developments. They hand a 'child' a loaded 'gun' then assume innocence when the 'child' 'shoots' someone or themselves.

Yes,
We should definitely stop doing science.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Yes,
We should definitely stop doing science.

We should be doing more of the right science (and stop overreacting).

 

[mark46]

We should be doing more of the right science (and stop overreacting).

I suppose that right science is something like right religion, agreeing with the biases of the beholder.

 

[theQuincunx5]

We should be doing more of the right science (and stop overreacting).

Your point doesn't follow and doesn't show an appreciation of how to make that call. But good idea.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I suppose that right science is something like right religion, agreeing with the biases of the beholder.

Science could serve humanity a little more.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Your point doesn't follow and doesn't show an appreciation of how to make that call. But good idea.

Please clarify. Thanks.

 

[theQuincunx5]

Please clarify. Thanks.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I suppose that right science is something like right religion, agreeing with the biases of the beholder.

Scientists report that only 2.7 percent of Americans have a healthy lifestyle. Does this include those scientists? I am in the 2.7 percent group (according to this study) which means that I am healthier than (most of) the scientists who study health. I do have a strong 'bias' toward good health, as well as other important issues.

Isn't it interesting that science can sell it's wares to business for profit but cannot 'sell' it's knowledge of health to the average person, or even to themselves.

Whoa: Basically No One in America Is Actually Healthy, According to Science

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Seriously. I don't know what you mean.

 

[theQuincunx5]

Seriously. I don't know what you mean.

OK.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

OK.

Not important I guess.

 

[theQuincunx5]

Not important I guess.

Is anything?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Is anything?

It does seem that the most important things aren't important to most, and vice versa.

 

[theQuincunx5]

It does seem that the most important things aren't important to most, and vice versa.

OK. Sounds good.