What is time?

[Gracchus]

Nope, mass is never converted into energy.
Mass is a property of energy. So all that is happening is energy moving around and changing its form.
Otherwise the universe would get "used up".

The folks in Hiroshima and Nagasaki would be most interested to learn that the atomic bombs didn't really work. And neither does the sun actually shine. But fame and fortune await you when you publish your evidence.

 

[Gracchus]

Whenever we ponder Minkowski space-time we are thinking about the universe from "outside space-time". So if we can conceive of such a state, then why could not an entity (God) exist in such a state?

No, when we "ponder Minkowski space-time" we are pondering the interchangeability of space and time according to the relative motion of the observer to the observed phenomenon.
You may be overestimating your understanding of physics. See, for instance: The Dunning-Kruger Effect.

 

[greenguzzi]

The folks in Hiroshima and Nagasaki would be most interested to learn that the atomic bombs didn't really work. And neither does the sun actually shine. But fame and fortune await you when you publish your evidence.

No need to publish, I'm just describing standard physics. Maybe you need an update. I'm happy to provide, but you might like to check it out for yourself before I say any more.

 

[greenguzzi]

No, when we "ponder Minkowski space-time" we are pondering the interchangeability of space and time according to the relative motion of the observer to the observed phenomenon.

Well, not quite, but close enough. My understanding of physics is perfectly adequate thank you. (But I'm always hungry to learn more.)
I am more than happy to discuss and learn. But I'll never trade insults or make assumptions.

 

[dad]

Professor Norman: But if humans are not the unit of measure, and the world isn’t governed by mathematical laws, what governs all that?

The world has time. Now work on whether that is the same in deep space.

Lucy: Film a car speeding down the road. Speed up the image infinitely, then the car disappears. So what proof do we have of its existence? Time gives legitimacy to its existence. Time is the only true unit of measure. It gives proof to the existence of matter. Without time, we don’t exist.

Time is also part of the physical world, but we will exist in a world that is not just physical also.

 

[dad]

The Kabbalah is not really based on a guess it is based on an Oral tradition that goes back at least to Moses and maybe all the way back to Abraham and Adam.

Right, but isn't that word of mouth? Scripture is word of God's mouth. It wins.

 

[dad]

There has been a misunderstanding; When I refer to the "speed of a clock", I am referring to rate at which time flows. And the evidence is what it is: clocks run at different "speeds" in different locations.

There is therefore no such thing as a universal time.

Same thing. If time exists differently then any flow would also be different. Here it flows a certain way and exists a certain way.

 

[dad]

Is that why a journeyman machinist makes more then a PhD scientiest? The PhD's have degraded themselves so much that it is getting to be where an associate degree would make them more money.

Money doesn't matter, the issue is what they know or not. On origins issues they are dolts of the first magnitude.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Right, but isn't that word of mouth? Scripture is word of God's mouth. It wins.

Yes the Kabbalah is considered to be an oral tradition that was passed from generation to generation. They are not considered to be evangelical at all. Is is something you have to seek and want to know.

 

[dad]

No, when we "ponder Minkowski space-time" we are pondering the interchangeability of space and time according to the relative motion of the observer to the observed phenomenon.
You may be overestimating your understanding of physics. See, for instance: The Dunning-Kruger Effect.

The darn thing is we have no observers are in the far quadrants of the universe.

 

[dad]

Here's an interesting theory about time and distance as it relates to interstellar space travel. It just suddenly occurred to me one day, light a bolt out of the blue. Does interstellar space travel make any sense at any speed (no matter how fast), unless it occurs instantaneously ?! Consider the following hypothetical example.

In 2020 a spacecraft is launched to Proxima Centauri approximately 24 trillion miles away traveling at 25,000 miles per hour. Twenty years later, a faster ship travelling at 150,000 miles per hour is launched and it eventually overtakes and passes the first ship. Twenty years after that, in 2060 a spacecraft is launched that can travel 500,000 thousand miles per hour, and it quickly overtakes and passes the other two (which are still en route). Next, the science of folding "space and time" is discovered, and a fourth ship is launched to the very same destination.. and guess what ?!.. It arrives before any of the other ships do, because it arrives instantaneously.

This hypothetical doesn't even take into account Einstein's Theory of Relativity, which states at accelerated speeds in space, decades would pass on Earth while the first light speed spacecraft was en route to its' destination a mere four light years away.

So it logically follows, the quickest way to get anywhere at an extreme distance, is to simple wait for the technology to fold "space-time" and arrive there instantaneously. All the slower trips are just a waste of time and resources. Ridiculous acts of human hubris.

Actually, I don't even think light speed space travel is possible. The kinetic energy of a particle the size of a grain of sand would explode on the hull of a spaceship with the force of a 100 megaton hydrogen bomb if the ship were travelling the speed of light. The faster you go, the more energy you'd need for shields, until going any faster would become a virtual impossibility.

Sorry. I hope I haven't upset all you Star Trek and science fiction fans out there.

Since man could not know the distances in the universe at all unless time existed out there, you don't know how far you need to travel.

 

[dad]

Seriously though.. Since this is a Christian web site, I'll give you my theological take on time and how it relates to God. Personally, I don't believe God even perceives time the way we do. God transcends time and space. He exists at the beginning of time and at the end of time simultaneously. "I am Alpha and Omega".

The Scripture also says, a thousand years of our time, is as one of our days with the Lord, (2 Peter 3:8). The difference between the way God and man reckons time is of such critical importance to the understanding of God's Word, the Apostle Peter states it is of singular importance among all his other teachings. He begins this verse by saying, "Do not be ignorant of this one thing".

The math is pretty straightforward, 1,000 years divided by 24 hours (one day) is equivalent to 41.6 or forty one and a half years. The length of time (the way God reckons it), of a prophetic HOUR. Now go and read Revelation 17:12.

And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings ONE HOUR with the beast".

Most conservative Bible scholars agree these ten kings can only be dictators, or usurpers of power. John Gill's Exposition, Matthew Henry's Commentary, ect. all say the same thing). In reality, this prophecy was fulfilled in March 1947 when the Iron Curtain fell across Eastern Europe and the Cold War began with then President Truman's Policy of Containment was announced against the Soviet Bloc.

At the time, the Soviet East Bloc consists of Nine (stalinist dictarotships) kingdoms. The Soviet Union (including the Baltic States that voluntarily became republics of the USSR in 1941, and did not regain their independence until 1991), East Germany, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Albania, Yugoslavia and Bulgaria.

The tenth kingdom consisting of the Roman Catholic population of Eastern Europe, representing the Vatican State, (the miry clay representing infirm spiritual beliefs, Psalm 40:2, and Daniel 2:43). A total of ten illegitimate kingdoms.

Like I said, the math is simple. Add 41.6, or forty one and a half years to March 1947, or 1947.3 and you arrive at the date 1988.9, or September 1988. Headlines from Time Magazine for that date read;

"EASTERN EUROPE ERUPTS IN ARC OF UNREST AS YOUNG ACTIVISTS DEMAND REFORM"

It is the beginning of the end of the Cold War era and the end of the Soviet empire in Eastern Europe. It comes in ONE PROPHETIC HOUR (41.6 years), exactly as prophesied in the Book of Revelations. I'm afraid the preparatory phase of Rev. 17:12 has already been fulfilled (Sorry for you European Union fans).

The Soviet Union, East Germany, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia no longer exist as countries (kingdoms). The Stalinist dictatorships of Bulgaria, Hungary, Albania, Poland and Romania all toppled, (Rev. 7:13), and the consummate stage of the prophecy, (Rev.18) will be completed with the destruction of Rome in the not too distant future.

Interesting, huh ?! By the way, I didn't lift that off any publication, web-site or video, so you have my permission to share it however you like. It's not copyrighted. It is original and it is my own. Since I have no interest in writing books about eschatology, you are perfectly welcome to use it, or reprint it as you like.

Since God is defiantly outside of our heavens, whatever time is like to Him doesn't matter here...or even on the edge of our universe!

 

[joshua 1 9]

Since man could not know the distances in the universe at all unless time existed out there, you don't know how far you need to travel.

Do you have GPS on your telephone?

 

[dad]

Your statement here is incorrect.. That is not what Einstein's math says.
If you left earth at the speed of light, your journey to a star four light years away would be instantaneous to YOU.
If you left earth at ~99.99999999% the speed of light, your journey to a star four light years away would take just a few hours (or maybe a few minutes), on YOUR clock..
If you left earth at the speed of light, your journey to a star four light years away would take 4 years as referenced by everyone else.
If you left earth at ~99.99999999% the speed of light, your journey would take 4 years + a couple hours as seen by everyone else.

The faster your go, the more time slows for the person going fast, but only for the person going fast.

I should add a disclaimer here because the above examples are phrased in a simplistic way. The fact is, if you could travel at the speed of light, your clock would allow you to go everywhere in the universe instantaneously.. You could be everywhere all at once.. But that's impossible.

Einstein didn't know anything about whether time existed in the far universe. If it doesn't you cannot travel in years. That is OUR years. Not years there.

 

[dad]

If you were to fall into a black hole you would approach the speed of light as you approached the event horizon. And as you approach the speed of light your mass increases until you are a black hole. You wouldn't notice anything, and your position, by Schroedinger's equation would become more and more indeterminate. At the speed of light, you could be anywhere. I'm guessing the interference patterns in gravitational waves produced by colliding black holes are what we perceive as matter. In a sense, the black hole is everywhere and its slow (from our point of view) disintegration produces the weak nuclear force. And it's fast (from our point of view) disintegration is the big bang.
I know that doesn't make sense, but if you think reality is supposed to make sense you just don't understand reality.

Nice story.

 

[dad]

Do you have GPS on your telephone?

Not one that reaches the stars.

 

[dad]

The comedian Stephen Wright also asked an interesting question. "If you're travelling faster then the speed of light, and you turned the headlights of your spacecraft on, would anything happen"?! "How could they see where they are going" ???

Not that interesting as it is all fantasy.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Not one that reaches the stars.

The math they use for the GPS is the same math they use for the Hubble Space telescope.

 

[joshua 1 9]

The comedian Stephen Wright also asked an interesting question. "If you're travelling faster then the speed of light, and you turned the headlights of your spacecraft on, would anything happen"?! "How could they see where they are going" ???

It would take all the energy you could produce to travel the speed of light. There would not be any energy available to turn the lights on. They tell me with some cars you have to turn the air conditioner off to have the power to get on an expressway. The reason we can not go faster then the speed of light is that the energy required to do that does not exist.

 

[Gracchus]

No need to publish, I'm just describing standard physics. Maybe you need an update. I'm happy to provide, but you might like to check it out for yourself before I say any more.

Please provide an update.