What is the purpose of believer baptism?

[tonychanyt]

I can tell


I think you answered your own question with "I don't know"

But I thought you know. That's why I have been asking you. So you don't know either?

 

[concretecamper]

But I thought you know. That's why I have been asking you. So you don't know either?

Correct, I have no idea as to the basis of your question

 

[RileyG]

Purposes of credobaptism:

1. It is an act of obedience to fulfill all righteousness as Jesus himself was baptized in Matthew 3:15.
2. It is an act of obedience to fulfill the great commission (Matthew 28:19).
3. It is a sign of death and resurrection (Colossians 2:11-12).

When baptism is done sincerely with repentance, it is an act of spiritual reality. However, this outward ritual is meaningless if not accompanied by inward repentance.

In Baptism, God does the work, not believers. It imparts the soul with divine life and gives forgiveness of all sins.

 

[tonychanyt]

Correct, I have no idea as to the basis of your question

This is the question: What if some person doesn't repent and get baptized?

Are you now saying that no one should ask this question?

 

[tonychanyt]

In Baptism, God does the work, not believers. It imparts the soul with divine life and gives forgiveness of all sins.

What if some person doesn't repent and get baptized?

 

[RileyG]

What if some person doesn't repent and get baptized?

It's up to God regarding their salvation. Not us.

 

[tonychanyt]

It's up to God regarding their salvation. Not us.

Define salvation.

 

[RileyG]

Define salvation.

Heaven. Union with God. Being saved.

 

[tonychanyt]

Heaven. Union with God. Being saved.

Can you be more precise? Define Union with God.

 

[RileyG]

Can you be more precise? Define Union with God.

Heaven. Seeing the face of God forever in the Beatific Vision.

 

[tonychanyt]

Heaven. Seeing the face of God forever in the Beatific Vision.

So if a person is not seeing the face of God forever in the Beatific Vision, he is not saved?

 

[RileyG]

So if a person is not seeing the face of God forever in the Beatific Vision, he is not saved?

Correct. That person would be in hell. Beatific Vision IS heaven.

 

[tonychanyt]

Correct. That person would be in hell. Beatific Vision IS heaven.

Are you seeing the face of God forever in the Beatific Vision now?

 

[RileyG]

Are you seeing the face of God forever in the Beatific Vision now?

No. I'm not dead yet and not yet in heaven, Lord have mercy.