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No, I didn't "change the discussion." I answered your question about faith.
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No, I didn't "change the discussion." I answered your question about faith.As you can see, we were talking about the word faith and I defined it, you said it wasn't what was practiced by religionists (a strange word) and I asked what you did see. You then change the discussion from faith to demonstrating knowledge of the Divine and absolute truth. Now my point was about faith as a theist views it and how you would see it.
Jesus Christ then
came as our Perfect sacrifice.
You need the holy God as the example and to set the standards/
law and punishment.
People think if they are believers in Jesus Christ that someday
they will just die and be gone. Yet, the Bible tells us they will die
again - as in the second death and it will hurt. The Christians will
not be hurt of the second death. So there must be life after the first death or people couldn't die a second time when cast into
the lake of fire.
The Bible tells us about that and even how
we and animals and more began.
Before I begin, I understand there are different views on hell, but I only wish to discuss one....eternal conscious torment. Personally, I have started to break away from this view, but if there is any truth to it I want to discuss it. That said, for those of you who hold to this view, what purpose do you see in the design of such a place? Throughout scripture, for the most part, I can see that God has a method and reason to his laws and punishments. With that in mind, what purpose does burning someone alive in unquenchable fire for all eternity accomplish? Why did God choose fire for the punishment? Why is it forever instead of a finite amount of time? Please be respectful and on point regarding this topic.
More like the sacrificial lamb.The definition of scapegoating.
Were you born with your sense of morality?No you don't. If you think you need someone to tell you what is good or bad then you aren't really a moral person.
"We" do? What is the mathematical formula that proves evolution is true?And we know that is a myth and not a literal story. It is falsified by the overwhelming evidence for evolution.
More like the sacrificial lamb.
Were you born with your sense of morality?
"We" do? What is the mathematical formula that proves evolution is true?
Jesus was the sacrificial lamb.Yes, scapegoating. Throw your sins onto someone else.
<This reply then refutes your prior declaration concerning morality: "If you think you need someone to tell you what is good or bad then you aren't really a moral person."Taught to me by my parents and learned through experiences. I have empathy and the ability to understand how my actions affect other people.
There are plenty of scientists that patronize this board. I'm pretty sure they will tell you in the forum they frequent here that virtually every accepted scientific theory has a mathematical formula to support it.Evolution is the foundation of modern biology. It's not math. That's like asking what mathematical formula do we use to convict murderers. We follow evidence to the logical conclusion. The evidence is overwhelming. This thread isn't about evolution. Let's not take it off topic.
How did you answer my question?No, I didn't "change the discussion." I answered your question about faith.
Jesus was the sacrificial lamb.
<This reply then refutes your prior declaration concerning morality: "If you think you need someone to tell you what is good or bad then you aren't really a moral person."
There are plenty of scientists that patronize this board. I'm pretty sure they will tell you in the forum they frequent here that virtually every accepted scientific theory has a mathematical formula to support it.
Of course it was if someone is aware of the sacrificial system of the Jews at the time of Christ.So the only way to forgive sins is to have someone brutally tortured and killed? That is not moral.
You said what you said.I should have been more clear. I do not need a God to explain what is right and wrong. If there was no 10 commandments, would you understand that killing someone is wrong?
That's why evolutionists refer to evolution as a theory? Because it is a fact?I am no scientist but I do not need a mathematical model in order to understand that evolution is a fact. The evidence from several independent disciplines is overwhelming. DNA and genetics is the slam dunk.
Symbolism, Jesus was the unblemished lamb. Born for the purpose of being the last sacrifice for sins so that all any had to do after that is to believe in his birth, his life, the teachings he gave during his life, and that he died so as to cleanse us from our own unrighteousness.
That's why evolutionists refer to evolution as a theory? Because it is a fact?
Richard Dawkins, a published avowed atheist now says he's a secular Christian.
You mean like how?
Man has a body, soul, spirit....beasts have - a spirit that goes
downward.
We have eternal existence-beasts don't.
We both came from dust and will return to dust after death.
But - we will participate in one of two resurrections.
We are created in God's image.
I presume the Bible was written in a fashion so as to promote the religion(s) that are based on it.Why would the Bible tell us that you can die in your sins?
No.If every thought, pain, memory was over, then would it
matter if you died as saved or in your sins?
I see no reason why there must be. The Bible could simply be wrong.There must be
reward and punishment to come after death.
When did this happen, and how did they scientifically verify it?How can some people know certain events happened or be
aware of some things that took place unless they are not
still in their body? such as actions by others in another place
in a hospital?
More like the sacrificial lamb.
Were you born with your sense of morality?
"We" do? What is the mathematical formula that proves evolution is true?
This is inaccurate. Where relevant and useful, mathematical formulae tend to describe theories, not support them. As an example, the formula E=MC^2 describes the relationship between matter and energy in special relativity. It doesn't support the theory; it expresses it mathematically.There are plenty of scientists that patronize this board. I'm pretty sure they will tell you in the forum they frequent here that virtually every accepted scientific theory has a mathematical formula to support it.
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