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Immortal life is just existing. Eternal life is existence with God. To exist apart from Him would be a kind of "eternal death".There is no difference between immortal life and eternal life
You'll have to take that up with the apostle:A ridiculous unbiblcal pattern if imputation is said to be the only reason for man's unrighteousness before God and his restored righteousness through Christ.
You'll have to do that. It's already been explained why death reigned over all, because all were separated from the Author of life. This killed them spiritually as well as introducing its physical parallel: the death of the body. The many were made unrighteous-sinners-by Adam while the many are made righteous again by Jesus.You'll have go take that up with the apostle:
". . .death reigned from Adam to Moses even over those whose sns were not like the transgression of Adalm who was a type (tupos; figure, type, pattern) of the one who was to come." (Ro 5:14)
Indeed . . ."that ridiculous unbiblical pattern" is explained in Ro 5:14You'll have to do that. It's already been explained why death reigned over all,
Nothing about imputation of righteousness tho:Indeed "that ridiculous unbiblical pattern" is explained in Ro 5:14
". . .death reigned from Adam to Moses even over those whose sins were not like the transgression of Adam who was a type (tupos; figure, type, pattern) of the one who was to come." (Ro 5:14)
The above is the parallel of the imputation of Adam's sin (to all those of Adam) with the imputation of Christ's righteousness (to all those of Christ.)Nothing about imputation of righteousness tho:
"For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!
Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous." Rom 5:17-19
The many will be made righteous, no longer sinners.
When discussing "eternal life" and "immortal life" they are technically identicalThe natures of divine life, angelic life and human life are not the same.
Which of course renders any notions of ignoring or denying the evil facts useless lies by the bearerThis world is a kind of halfway house where good and evil are experienced
All we have to understand is when we insert the tempter, our adversary into the picture, total depravity is abundantly clear and accurate, but unseenPretty clear that the concept of depravity is illusory.
Hardly. . ."eternal life" is more than just "immortal," it is God's life. . .which is not the same as human life which is not the same as animal life which is not the same as plant life.When discussing "eternal life" and "immortal life" they are technically identical
It's not about logic, it's about their nature. . .they are not the same life, as easily seen between human life and plant life.Your claim differentiated these states and your response didn't seem to pick up on the logic flaw
And God then gives immortal life to others, but that giving is not from God?Hardly. . ."eternal life" is more than just immortal, it is God's life
Either way, grace give us the means to choose good thoughts, and acts, over evil ones.Which of course renders any notions of ignoring or denying the evil facts useless lies by the bearer
Good choices never eliminated evil thoughts to "choose from"
Find honest answers from there
Evil thoughts defile all regardless of choices, the general point of our Lord in Matt. 7:21-23Either way, grace give us the means to choose good thoughts, and acts, over evil ones.
Immortality is not eternal life.And God then gives immortal life to others, but that giving is not from God?
God creates the human spirit in immortality.Do you see the dilemma in such postures yet?
Only God can grant immortality
God's dwelling within the human immortal spirit is not the source of its immortality (no cessation of its existence), immortality of the human spirit comes with its creation.and God ALONE dwells in and has the power to grant HIS immortality in order to "give it."
Yes, immortality (without ending) of the human spirit comes from God at its creation.Said "immortality" therefore has to come from God, which is the general point. You are trying to isolate God from immortality, which is kinda nutz.
Matthew 7:21-23 refers to many, not all. And the gospel has nothing to do with just acting good, which Jesus denounces. It has to do with what happens when we turn to God in faith, becoming His people.Evil thoughts defile all regardless of choices, the general point of our Lord in Matt. 7:21-23
There is no escaping that fact by acting good and thinking that eliminates God's Facts
IF I stated Matt. 7:21-23 it should have been MARK 7:21-23. There is a similar almost identical statement in MATT. 15:18-20Matthew 7:21-23 refers to many, not all.
But they live forever and that immortality is not eternal? Uh, probably not the case, as stated prior. Immortality IS ETERNAL.Immortality is not eternal life.
God gave people His Spirit. That is what returns to God, as previously cited in Eccl. 12:7 for example. Or as stated by Jesus in Matt. 23:9, Psalm 82:6, or noted by Paul in Acts 17:28-29God creates the human spirit in immortality.
Jesus didn't come to save devils if you are trying to claim people are devils.The human spirits of the damned are immortal.
Yeah, that's why your positional claim is pretty well nonsense.Yes, immortality (without ending) of the human spirit comes from God
I"m sure you'll understand if I believe Jesus in Jn 8:34; i.e., man is a slave to sin. . .slaves to sin are not morally free.
"Free will" is a human notion. . .Scripture does not present the totally "free will" of man (Jn 8:34).
Totally "free will" is not about being able to make choices,
its about being able to make all moral choices.
Man's will is not totally free if it cannot make the moral choice to live sinlessly.
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