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That is not very reliable. It is also contradictory. Do you have any proper sources? Work done by real scientists would help your claims.
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That is not very reliable. It is also contradictory. Do you have any proper sources? Work done by real scientists would help your claims.I’ve told you where to look in the past,
Eg for Cochabamba a precis here . You could have found if you care.
The Bleeding Statue of Christ, In Couchabamba Bolivia | Reason To Believe
But you need to look at the books - videos - plenty to choose. You need to look at the evidence if you care about truth.
willesee gives a long description of the discussion in his book.
But in years you never have.
I agree. It appears that he is conflating accepting evolution with atheism.Still not sure how the appearance of these cells combined with a misquote of something Darwin said 150 years ago falsifies the theory of evolution
If you don’t regard Lawrence as a scientist - you don’t know either who he is or what a real scientist is. Seemingly your definition of “ real scientist” is anyone who agrees with you...That is not very reliable. It is also contradictory. Do you have any proper sources? Work done by real scientists would help your claims.
Sorry, but even if true your bogus claims wouldn't refute the theory of evolution. Why do you think that it does?Darwin postulated all life came from progressive small change. these - assuming real - didn’t. Do I have to spell it out?
I am not answering again until you give some evidence you have looked at the evidence so it can be discussed.
That appears to be because you have no understanding of the scientific method or the concept of scientific evidence. Once again would you care to learn?If you don’t regard Lawrence as a scientist - you don’t know either who he is or what a real scientist is. Seemingly your definition of “ real scientist” is anyone who agrees with you...
if you care you will buy some books.
Which brings us back to the OP, which asserted that the existence of a creator God falsifies abiogenesis and the theory of evolution. Good for Mike for staying on-topic.I agree. It appears that he is conflating accepting evolution with atheism.
The difference is that it matters if it's designed. If not, nothing matters.Hey, what happened to your explanation of the differences in gravity if it was created by God or if it's natural. You know, the dropped pencils...
No, that's not the point. When you drop a pencil, it appears to behave according to the natural laws of gravity as science describes them. If God is designing that fall, the pencil must behave differently. What do you predict that difference will be?The difference is that it matters if it's designed. If not, nothing matters.
Your line of reasoning seems to lack a connection here.The difference is that it matters if it's designed. If not, nothing matters.
It's much more interesting than most apologetics books.Well, I could tell *that*.
I wondered what *kind* of book about Christianity it was.
(Tinker Grey indicates that it is "apologetics". I think I shall pass then, I can think of nothing less interesting or compelling a subject matter than "apologetics".)
No, that's not the point. When you drop a pencil, it appears to behave according to the natural laws of gravity as science describes them. If God is designing that fall, the pencil must behave differently. What do you predict that difference will be?
Who are you suggesting are looking for intelligence?
ID proposes that there will be a difference. Just like evolution: ID proposes that natural laws as science describes them cannot explain the emergence of certain biological structures thus they require the intervention of a designer. What you persist in calling "ID" is actually theistic evolution--the idea that evolution proceeds according to natural laws because that's the way God "designed" it to happen.Why would it act differently? It acts exactly as God designed it to act.
No ID doesn't claim a pencil should hit the floor differently if God designed science. Intervention? That's like saying that the quarterback throwing the ball is interfering with the game.ID proposes that there will be a difference. Just like evolution: ID proposes that natural laws as science describes them cannot explain the emergence of certain biological structures thus they require the intervention of a designer.
I'd expect to see something like these giant current ripples from the Ice Age floods that ran through western Washington.Actions like what exactly?
I missed your response to the suggestion that you had misquoted Darwin.Darwin postulated all life came from progressive small change. these - assuming real - didn’t. Do I have to spell it out?
I am not answering again until you give some evidence you have looked at the evidence so it can be discussed.
I don't doubt that some scientists search for God nor that some scientists believe they have found God. I was just wondering how my original comment that "scientist do not know everything" relates to your remark "So, you have given up claiming they aren't trying to find out whether there's intelligence behind the universe?"
I’ve told you where to look in the past,
Eg for Cochabamba a precis here . You could have found if you care.
The Bleeding Statue of Christ, In Couchabamba Bolivia | Reason To Believe
But you need to look at the books - videos - plenty to choose. You need to look at the evidence if you care about truth.
willesee gives a long description of the discussion in his book.
But in years you never have.
The difference is that it matters if it's designed. If not, nothing matters.
When God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, it was a reaction to the creation of gravity.
The Earth formed around a gravitational singularity.
Gravitational time dilation (GTD) means that the remote regions of the cosmos may be 13.8 billion years old or more, but the earth only 6000 or so years old, at the same time.
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