What is the difficulty of getting into heaven?

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

Keep talking your words that speak against charity ( not for it) as charity never fails.

Keep talking of little sins getting us at times( instead of believing in Christ overcoming the world so we overcome it with Him ( in the same faith and way)

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

fhansen said:
And many here disagree with you that you've become perfect and can never lose that perfection. Some here believe that no personal righteousness is even required of us while you insist that perfect righteousness/sinless is required of us. It's not silly to state the truth-and sort out the falsehoods.

Te Apostles did all perfectly, and whoever disagrees with that cant believe in any word and example of God.

1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

fhansen · Aug 4, 2022

Of course....

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

fhansen said:
No, #111 added what you've left out all along.

Failure ( your opinion) is not having all of Gods word and will complete in us.

Luke 12:33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.

1 Corinthians 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Colossians 4:12 Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God.

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

Darkness and satans counsel is failure, but God is light who is our victory and overcoming( of satan and satans counsel)

Ecclesiastes 2:13 Then I saw that wisdom excelleth folly, as far as light excelleth darkness.

Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

against the failure( opinion/doctrine)

How to not fail:

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

Do the fasilure people like these testimonies of how to NOT FAIL..

Ephesians 6:14 STAND THEREFORE, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, WHEREWITHAL YE SHALL BE ABLE TO QUENCH ALL THE FIERY DARTS OF THE WICKED.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

fhansen · Aug 4, 2022

Well, at least someone besides Christ has attained perfection in this world. Glad to hear.

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

THERE IS NO STRIFE/DEBATE TO HAVE, IF WE BELIEVE IN OVERCOMING THIS WORLD, WE MUST BELIEVE HOW TO DO IT AND DO IT.

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

fhansen said:
Well, at least someone besides Christ has attained perfection in this world. Glad to hear.

Yes the Apostles of the Lord did right in all, it is testified and exampled

Acts 24:16 And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void to offence toward God, and toward men.

2 Corinthians 6:3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:
4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;
6 By pureness, by knowledge, by long suffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,
7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,
8 By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;
9 As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;
10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

Who follows and what is the point of an evil corrupt example?

The Apostles are the true example, and cant be denied by someone who doesnt believe it/follow it truly.

Philippians 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ.

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

You think hansen, because you have a negative viewpoint, you can somehow change how to overcome this world, as exampled by Christ and the Apostles ?

Sure, but not today you cant.

Hebrews 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

God wants us to overcome and guess who does not ?

1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

1 John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Revelation 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Love not ourselves but love others is how we overcome, tell the message stop blocking it

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

What I leave out hansen all along is failure.

Put on charity, charity fails not( what you speak all along/failure at times)....

1 Corinthians 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

Colossians 3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

2 Peter 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

How to NEVER FAIL:

2 Peter 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, GIVE DILLIGENCE TO MAKE YOUR CALLING AND ELECTION SURE: FOR IF YE DO THESE THINGS, YE SHALL NEVER FALL ( NEVER FAIL IN CHARITY WHEN PUT ON/PUT ON CHRIST.)

servant7777 · Aug 4, 2022

All of the message to the churches ( in the book of Revelation) was to overcome, and they who are born of God will overcome this world ( sin)

The victory is our faith, and when we don't believe we fail and sin and are not born of God then.

1 Corinthians 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

1 John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

Clare73 · Aug 4, 2022

fhansen said:
No, the choice isn't presented there.

Agreed. . .that is my point.

It's "unfortunate" that Scripture doesn't deal with your objections.

renniks · Aug 4, 2022

servant7777 said:
The law is to love and love is perfect.

Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

Do you believe you love perfectly?
I don't.
It's all grace.

fhansen · Aug 4, 2022

Clare73 said:
Agreed. . .that is my point.

It's "unfortunate" that Scripture doesn't deal with your objections.

The point was that those verses to do not at all deny the necessity of human choice in the matter, as you claimed they did.

Brightfame52 · Aug 4, 2022

servant7777 said:
Denying Christ is when we never received the spotless blood of Christ, that is lifestyle and it is the blood and it is faith, all are ONE.

Titus 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

1 Peter 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Sounds like to me you depend on something you do. Thats works and denies Christ !

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