What is the difference?

[hesalive]

A legitimate question here for the TE. I am not seeking debate or discussion on evidences. I would appreciate your input.

What is the difference between Theistic Evolution and Atheistic Evolution? If there is no difference, I will accept that response.

 

[Dust and Ashes]

A legitimate question here for the TE. I am not seeking debate or discussion on evidences. I would appreciate your input.

What is the difference between Theistic Evolution and Atheistic Evolution? If there is no difference, I will accept that response.

One believes God did it, the other believes it did itself.

 

[artybloke]

What is the difference between Theistic Evolution and Atheistic Evolution? If there is no difference, I will accept that response.

That's easy. In Theistic Evolution, God did it all. In Atheistic Evolution, it just happened.

AEs are fallen, sinful creatures just like all humans and are just as subject to misrepresent data to favor their views as creationists are.

No doubt you're right, forgiven; but it's also a fact that if you want to defraud the scientific community, there's thousands of other scientists breathing down your neck, checking every calculation and observation so that they blow your argument out of the water and claim the Nobel Prize for themselves. In this case, sinfulness (in the form of dog-eat-dog competiveness) actually works for integrity: if you know your colleagues and rivals are looking over your shoulders, you'll try and get it right.

And the scientific method is designed to be as rigourous as possible, to militate against fraud.

 

[hesalive]

That's easy. In Theistic Evolution, God did it all. In Atheistic Evolution, it just happened.

So to be clear am I to take your opinion to be that there is no difference in actual process between the two theories? Only that in one God did it, and in the other, it did itself?

 

[Dust and Ashes]

So to be clear am I to take your opinion to be that there is no difference in actual process between the two theories? Only that in one God did it, and in the other, it did itself?

Pretty much.

 

[artybloke]

So to be clear am I to take your opinion to be that there is no difference in actual process between the two theories? Only that in one God did it, and in the other, it did itself?

Yes, but:

I'm not a scientist, personally; but I see no reason why a theological understanding and a scientific understanding would connect particularly. The question of whether God created the world or not isn't something I would expect a scientist to answer, any more than I'd expect a car mechanic, who I'd trust to mend my car, to be particularly well-informed about the philosophy of Wittgenstein.

"Theistic evolution" is not a scientific hypothesis, it's a theological belief, accepted or not accepted by faith. The theory of evolution is accepted because it best accords with the data that we currently have available. "Atheistic evolution" is equally a faith statement, and as such has no more or less validity as science than "theistic evolution." That is, science can neither confirm nor deny atheism or theism.

That doesn't mean that scientific knowledge is the only form of knowledge (something, incidentally, that's implied in creationism, with its insistence that the only form of truth is literal, "factual" truth. Anyone with an interest in poetry or storytelling knows that's not true.)

 

[hesalive]

So it seems this is really a simple question. No one seems to disagree that the Atheist and the TE hold to the same theory.

 

[notto]

So it seems this is really a simple question. No one seems to disagree that the Atheist and the TE hold to the same theory.

Scientifically, yes,

Just like they would hold to the same scientific theory of gravity, nuclear decay, and the cell theory of disease.

What is the difference between Theistic Gravity and Atheistic Gravity? The answer to the question is the same as your original inquiry. From a scientific perspective, not much.