What is the antichrist?

[5thKingdom]

As John taught [1John] anyone who denies Christ is an AntiChrist.
HOWEVER... the Bible also speaks of.THE Anti-Christ.
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The Anti-Christ is NOT Satan... instead, he receives "his power, and his seat, and great authority" from the Dragon [Satan]
THE Anti-Christ is Satan's chief emissary on earth. Satan is a spirit and he requires a MAN to do his bidding.
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Rev_13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion:
AND THE DRAGON GAVE HIM HIS POWER, AND HIS SEAT, AND GREAT AUTHORITY.
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Rev_13:4 And they worshipped the Dragon, WHICH GAVE POWER TO THE BEAST: and they worshipped the beast,
saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
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Behold a Biblical mystery:
Satan's "Little Season", when he RULES, is also shown as (1) The Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1-13]
and (2) the Revelation Beast and (3) Daniel's Fourth Kingdom/Beast and (4) the reign of the Anti-Christ...
who is also called the "Little Horn" and the "False Prophet" and the "Man of Sin".
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BTW... we can know absolutely that Daniel's Fourth Beast = Revelation Beast = Great Tribulation = Satan's "Little Season"
and the rule of THE MAN called Anti-Christ because (in EACH case) the PEOPLE living during those times
are still living when the Lord Returns.
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The people in Daniel's Fourth Beast are the same people in the Great Tribulation Kingdom and the same people in the Revelation Beast
and the same people in Satan's "Little Season" and the same people RULED by the man called THE Anti-Christ.
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This reality of Satan and his Anti-Christ RULING during Satan's "Little Season" is easily shown in Scripture...
just let me know if you would like to see (and harmonize) the passages.
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Jim

 

[Clare73]

It's not being set aside. It is simply a part of the whole, the Kingdom of God overturning man's rule.

The kingdom of God doesn't overturn man's rule until the end of time.

The kingdom of God is spiritual, invisible (Lk 17:20) and within (Lk 17:21) the hearts where he reigns and rules.
The only ruling of man being overturned before the end of time is God's ruling in the heart of the born again.
God's kingdom has nothing to do with man's rule of the earth in time.

 

[5thKingdom]

The kingdom of God doesn't overturn man's rule until the end of time.

The kingdom of God is spiritual, invisible (Lk 17:20) and within (Lk 17:21) the hearts where he reigns and rules.
The only ruling of man being overturned before the end of time is God's ruling in the heart of the born again.
God's kingdom has nothing to do with man's rule of the earth in time.

You (incorrectly) say "The only ruling of man being overturned before the end of time is God's ruling in the heart of the born again.
Unfortunately that is simply wrong.


Notice the "Wise Virgins" [Mat 25:1-13] and the ten "horns/kings" [Dan 7] and the ten "horns/kings" [Rev 17]
are all RULED by Satan and his Anti-Christ (called the "Little Horn" and "False Prophet" and "Man of Sin").


1) In Matthew 25 we see the Great Tribulation “Kingdom of Heaven” consists exclusively of the “Ten Virgins”
that “went forth” from their (3rd) Christian Kingdom churches – into the (4th) Great Tribulation Kingdom,
following the man commonly called the Anti-Christ.


Mat 25:1-2
Then shall the [4th Great Tribulation] Kingdom of Heaven be likened unto TEN VIRGINS,
which took their lamps [their Gospel], and went forth [from the 3rd Kingdom into the 4th Kingdom]
to meet the Bridegroom [preaching the Lord’s Return]. And five of them were wise [saved wheat],
and five were foolish [unsaved tares].


The Great Tribulation “Kingdom of Heaven” did NOT include those people who never “went forth”
from their (3rd) Christian Kingdom churches and the Great Tribulation certainly did not include people
OUTSIDE of the Christian Kingdom.


Consider: The (2nd) Old Testament “Kingdom of Heaven” was exclusive to those within national Israel,
It was exclusive to the Jews and did not include Gentiles. Likewise, the (3rd) Christian “Kingdom of Heaven”
was exclusive to those “wheat and tares” within the Church. It did not include people OUTSIDE the church,
people denying Christ. And the (4th) Great Tribulation “Kingdom of Heaven” is exclusive to the “Ten Virgins”
that “went forth”, from the Christian Kingdom. It does not include people remaining in their churches, people
who never “went forth”… and it certainly does not include people OUTSIDE the Church.


2) In Daniel 7 we see the Fourth “Kingdom/Beast” on earth consists exclusively of the Ten “Kings/Horns”
under the rule of the “Little Horn”. The Fourth Kingdom did NOT include anyone besides the Ten “Kings/Horns”,
which represented the “Ten Virgins” consisting of both saved “wheat” and unsaved “tares” following conservative
(reformed) doctrines at the “End of the Age” (end of the Great Commission) and the beginning of the Fourth Beast.


Dan 7:8
I considered the [ten] Horns, and, behold, there came up among them another Little Horn, before whom
there were three of the first Horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this [Little] Horn were eyes
like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.


Dan 7:21-22
I beheld, and the same [Little] Horn made war with the Saints, and prevailed against them;
Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the Saints of the most High;
and the time came that the Saints possessed the kingdom.


Dan 7:24-25
And the Ten Horns out of this Kingdom are Ten Kings that shall arise: and another [Little Horn]
shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three Kings. And he
shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think
to change times and laws: and they [the Last Saints] shall be given into his hand until a time and times and
the dividing of time [for 3.5 times].


3) Again, in Revelation 17, we see the 7-Headed Revelation Beast consists exclusively of Ten “Kings/Horns”.
Who give their strength to the Beast. The Revelation Beast does NOT include anyone besides the Ten "Kings/Horns",
which (again) represents the "Ten Virgins" that "went forth" into the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1]...
consisting of both saved "wheat" and unsaved "tares"... in fact they are the LAST "wheat and tares" on earth.


Rev 17:12-13
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet;
but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.


Rev 17:17
For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast,
until the words of God shall be fulfilled.


The Bible is crystal clear that these Biblical mysteries remained "closed-up" and "sealed" to all previous (Jewish and Christian) Saints...
until the Last Saints "shall understand" at the "Time-of-the-End". Therefore, all eschatology about the "Time-of-the-End",
which was developed 50 or 100 or 200 years ago... is automatically and completely false, because it was developed
while the Truth remained "closed-up" and "sealed". This is a Biblical doctrine which cannot be REFUTED.


Dan 12:4
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the Time-of-the-End:
many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


Dan 12:8-10
And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the Time-of-the-End.
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand;
but the wise [Last Saints] shall understand.


The Bible is crystal clear about WHEN the Saints "shall understand" mysteries about the "Time-of-the-End".
This is a doctrine which cannot be REFUTED from Scripture. Yes, it is "new information" but that is the NATURE
of something which remained "closed-up" and "sealed" until the Last Saints "shall understand".

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When the Lord Returns the Last Saints are NOT preaching the Gospel of the Jewish Saints,
and they are NOT preaching the Gospel of the Great Commission. When the Lord Returns, the Last Saints
are preaching about Biblical mysteries that remained "closed-up" and "sealed" until the Last Saints "shall understand"
at the "Time-of-the-End". Remember, Jesus PROMISED the Last Saints "shall see all these things" (see the fulfillment of
Great Tribulation prophecies [Mat 24:15 and 24:33]. The Last Saints and ONLY the Last Saints "shall understand" both
the mysteries "sealed" to previous saints and the historical fulfillment of all of Jesus' Great Tribulation prophecies.


In fact, the Last Saints preaching these Biblical mysteries is, in itself, one of the last "signs" on earth before His Return.
As they preach when the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound" [Rev 10:7-11] The Bible is crystal clear about this fact.

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[Clare73]

You (incorrectly) say "The only ruling of man being overturned before the end of time is God's ruling in the heart of the born again.
Unfortunately that is simply wrong.


Notice the "Wise Virgins" [Mat 25:1-13] and the ten "horns/kings" [Dan 7] and the ten "horns/kings" [Rev 17]
are all RULED by Satan and his Anti-Christ (called the "Little Horn" and "False Prophet" and "Man of Sin").

For that matter, all those not born again are ruled by Satan.

 

[timothyu]

God's kingdom has nothing to do with man's rule of the earth in time.

It shows how backwards thinking man's rule and rulers are.

 

[Jesse Dornfeld]

@orbiter,

Just one question: When is the resurrection of the saints?

 

[Clare73]

It shows how backwards thinking man's rule and rulers are.

God's kingdom is not of this material world (Jn 18:36), it is spiritual--invisible and within (Lk 7:2-21).
Mankind can't even see it to now that he is backwards.

 

[timothyu]

Mankind can't even see it to now that he is backwards.

No understanding and repentance, no admission.

 

[5thKingdom]

For that matter, all those not born again are ruled by Satan.

Yes, all those not regenerated are ruled by Satan.
However, there is CONTEXT to consider. You cannot hope to understand the MEANING of a passage
when you cannot discern the CONTEXT.

The Last Saints (part of the Ten "virgins" of Matthew 25 and the Ten "kings/horns" of Daniel 7 AND Revelation 17)
are not the same group of people preaching the Great Commission of the Christian Kingdom (until the "End of the Age").
Instead they are are particular group of people, being the LAST saints on earth. It is the group RULED by the "Little Horn"
[Dan 7] and RULED by the Revelation Beast [Rev 17] and RULED by the Anti-Christ during the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
[Mat 25:1-13]. In each case they are the Saints living on earth when the Lord Returns.

Context matters.

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[5thKingdom]

@orbiter,

Just one question: When is the resurrection of the saints?

The resurrection of the Saints is the same time as the Lord's Return and the same time as the Last Saints are "changed"
into their incorruptible spiritual bodies (without dying). This is clearly taught in BOTH
1 Thess 4 and 1 Cor 15


1Th 4:15-17
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord
shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel,
and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together
with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


1Co 15:50-53
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,
at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.


The Biblical teaching about the Last Saints being "changed" at the resurrection of the dead and Return of the Lord
could not be more clear.

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[5thKingdom]

God's kingdom is not of this material world (Jn 18:36), it is spiritual--invisible and within (Lk 7:2-21).
Mankind can't even see it to now that he is backwards.

No, you are wrong.


God's Kingdom is represented TWO WAYS in Scripture.
(1) It is represented as a temporal kingdom consisting of both saved "wheat" and unsaved "tares" IN THE CHURCH [Mat 13]
(2) It is represented as the eternal kingdom consisting of ONLY the saved from the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom
and the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" [specifically named by Jesus in Mat 22:2] and
as the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" [specifically named by Jesus in Mat 13, in 7 verses] and
as the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [specifically named by Jesus in Mat 25:1-13]


Again, these are Biblical mysteries which the Bible PROMISES would remain "closed-up" and "sealed"
to all (Jewish and Christian) Saints until the Last Saints "shall understand" (and preach) at the "Time-of-the-End".
Any eschatology developed 50 or 100 or 200 years ago is automatically proven to be false because it was developed
BEFORE the Last Saints "shall understand" during the "Time-of-the-End". The Bible is crystal clear about this reality.


Dan 12:4
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the Time-of-the-End:
many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


Dan 12:8-10
And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the Time-of-the-End.
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand;
but the wise [Last Saints, the "wise virgins"] shall understand.

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[Clare73]

No understanding and repentance, no admission.

Those in it can't see it either. . .it's not of this world.

 

[Clare73]

Yes, all those not regenerated are ruled by Satan.
However, there is CONTEXT to consider. You cannot hope to understand the MEANING of a passage
when you cannot discern the CONTEXT.

The Last Saints (part of the Ten "virgins" of Matthew 25 and the Ten "kings/horns" of Daniel 7 AND Revelation 17)
are not the same group of people preaching the Great Commission of the Christian Kingdom (until the "End of the Age").
Instead they are are particular group of people, being the LAST saints on earth. It is the group RULED by the "Little Horn"
[Dan 7] and RULED by the Revelation Beast [Rev 17] and RULED by the Anti-Christ during the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
[Mat 25:1-13]. In each case they are the Saints living on earth when the Lord Returns.

Context matters.

Understanding of NT apostolic teaching, to which much of this interpretation of prophetic riddles is in contradiction, matters.

 

[5thKingdom]

Understanding of NT apostolic teaching, to which much of this interpretation of prophetic riddles is in contradiction, matters.

Your comment makes no sense:


First, New Testament teaching was all apostolic.
Because it was written in the Gospel and Epistles.
BTW... history shows early Christians had a poor understanding of doctrines.
The history of the church is basically a history of gaining understanding of doctrines...
until the Reformation when the Saints understood much more than ever before.


Second, while Jesus promised to be with the saints until the "End of the Age" [Mat 28:19-20]
the Bible contains MUCH information about events AFTER the end of the Great Commission.


Mat 28:19-20
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway,
even unto the END OF THE AGE. Amen.


Third, after the "End of the Age", after the end of the Great Commission when ALL the saints are "sealed" (saved)
there is another period of time which the Bible shows as (1) the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1]
and (2) the Revelation Beast and (3) Daniel's Fourth Kingdom and (4) Satan's "Little Season" [Rev 20:3] which begins AFTER
being released from the Bottomless Pit and (5) the RULE of Satan and his Anti-Christ.


Rev 7:1-3
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth,
that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. And I saw another angel ascending from the east,
having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.


The Bible is crystal clear that the Great Tribulation/Revelation Beast/Satan's "Little Season"
CAN NOT BEGIN until all the elect have been "sealed" (saved). This Biblical doctrine cannot be refuted in Scripture...
only denied.


The "End of the Age" is the end of the Great Commission. However, the Bible provides a ton of information about
what happens AFTER the "End of the Age"... and that is the period which we are discussing now.

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[Clare73]

Your comment makes no sense:

First, New Testament taching was all apostolic.

Which personal interpretation of prophetic riddles is not.
And much of this personal interpretation of prophetic riddles is not in agreement with NT apostolic teaching.

 

[5thKingdom]

Understanding of NT apostolic teaching, to which much of this interpretation of prophetic riddles is in contradiction, matters.

And you seem to be intentionally ignoring what the Bible PROMISES about "Time-of-the-End" prophecies.
The Bible is crystal clear end-time prophecies remain "closed-up" and "sealed" until the Last Saints "shall understand"
during the "Time-of-the-End".


If you think Saints could understand end time prophecies BEFORE the "Time-of-the-End" then you contradict Scripture.


Dan 12:4
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the Time-of-the-End:
many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


Dan 12:8-10
And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the Time-of-the-End.
Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand;
but the wise [Last Saints, the "wise virgins"] shall understand.


Not only do the Last Saints understand Biblical mysteries "sealed" until the "Time-of-the-End"
they also PREACH these mysteries as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound" [Rev 10:7-11]


Make no mistake, when the Lord Returns, the Last Saints are NOT preaching the Gospel of the (2nd) Jewish Kingdom
and they are NOT preaching the Gospel of the (3rd) Christian Kingdom and they are NOT preaching the Gospel of the
(4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1]. Instead, they are preaching the historical fulfillment of all the
Great Tribulation prophecies Jesus PROMISED they "shall see all these things" [Mat 24:33] and they are preaching
Biblical mysteries that remained "sealed" until the Last Saints "shall understand" at the "Time-of-the-End".


This may be a NEW understanding to you... but that is exactly what the Bible promised would happen at the "Time-of-the-End".
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[5thKingdom]

Which personal interpretation of prophetic riddles is not.
And much of this personal interpretation of prophetic riddles is not in agreement with NT apostolic teaching.

Me quoting Scripture is NOT a "personal interpretation"
and you seem to be INTENTIONALLY IGNORING what the Bible PROMISED
in Mat 24:33 and Dan 12:8-10.

Intentionally ignoring Scriptures does not negate them.

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[5thKingdom]

Which personal interpretation of prophetic riddles is not.
And much of this personal interpretation of prophetic riddles is not in agreement with NT apostolic teaching.

Again you pretend that first century "apostolic teaching" was some benchmark of understanding.
When HISTORY (reality) demonstrates saints understanding GREW for thousands of years...
or did first century Christians teach TULIP?

All the councils of the early church were about better understanding doctrine.
All the confessions of the (protestant) church documented an increased understanding of doctrine.
Why is this so hard for you to comprehend... you do not REFUTE my words, you only deny them. That means nothing.

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[timothyu]

Those in it can't see it either. . .it's not of this world.

Perhaps can't see it but can know it. The Kingdom is not just a future physical place but God's government over man, clearly stated in the Lord's Prayer.

 

[Clare73]

Again you pretend that first century "apostolic teaching" was some benchmark of understanding.
When HISTORY (reality) demonstrates saints understanding GREW for thousands of years...
or did first century Christians teach TULIP?

Wrong standard.

The standard should be isTULIP in the NT?