What is that supposed to mean anyway?

[BigBadWlf]

Homaphobic, what is that supposed to mean?

(It is literally the fear of sameness, but the meaning has morphed somewhat)

Homophobia – irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality and /or homosexuals. hatred, hostility, disapproval of, or prejudice towards homosexual people, and is generally used to insinuate bigotry

 

[david_x]

No, I am suggesting we show God's love to everyone. By telling people they are going to hell for their lifestyle, that only drives them further from God and Christianity.

Okay than what about our brothers? What if they choose to live in this sin.

That really isn't comparable, alcoholism is an illness. Homosexuality is just natural feelings someone has.

I am making the comparison, I was not looking for an opinion. My question is, Do you see the resemblence. (Assuming they are both wrong)
(Alcholism has been associated with Genetics to)

 

[david_x]

Homophobia – irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality and /or homosexuals. hatred, hostility, disapproval of, or prejudice towards homosexual people, and is generally used to insinuate bigotry

Disproval? What kinda closed minded bigot would fall for that?

 

[BigBadWlf]

Okay than what about our brothers? What if they choose to live in this sin.



I am making the comparison, I was not looking for an opinion. My question is, Do you see the resemblence. (Assuming they are both wrong)
(Alcholism has been associated with Genetics to)

just as skin color has been linked to genetics

 

[Ohioprof]

The issue at hand here is that very few have a Biblical understanding of what God says about judging and how it is to be done.

As is consistent with the majority, I'm seeing that several of you are unaware that you can't make a decision without judging, and that God calls for the spiritual man to righteously judge all things.

The OP made a judgment when the original question was asked.

Halo, you made a judgment when you deduced for yourself the thing that you find most judging.

In accordance with God's Word, if you are in a relationship and having sex outside of God's marriage covenant, your acts are sin. And no its not an issue of you not legally being able to marry because God has also said who a marriage is between.

And though you guys may not like, it is the way it is because GOD says so.

You can reject that and start all the arguments about us not knowing what God says, etc. Fornication is sin and if you are fornicating , expect it to be identified as sin.



As Christians, we make that judgment with every person we meet if we do not know they are a Christian. If I meet you on the street and I don't know you're a Christian, I'm going to make the judgment that you're not and attempt to share the Gospel with you until we can establish that you are or not or until you run me off.

My point is that people have to judge. The issue is whether or not you're doing so righteously or hypocritically.

I do not find negative judgments of all gay people to be "righteous." To me they sound self-righteous, not righteous.

 

[Ohioprof]

Okay than what about our brothers? What if they choose to live in this sin.



I am making the comparison, I was not looking for an opinion. My question is, Do you see the resemblence. (Assuming they are both wrong)
(Alcholism has been associated with Genetics to)

There is no resemblance between being gay and being alcoholic.

What should you do about other people being gay? Nothing at all. It's not your business to judge us.

 

[Ohioprof]

Allow me to chage one word for you,

I don't find it particualrly funny myself, homosexuality is something that hurts body mind and those around them. It's a serious issue that the person needs help with.

Do you think the alcoholic thinks they are hurting anyone? Or themselves?



As it is written, they will see the light and they will despise it.

Many alcoholics do think they are hurting themselves.

Being gay is not an addiction, nor is it in any way like alcoholism. Being gay is not a disease, not a disorder. Being gay is not something that one "recovers" from. Being gay is simply a characteristic, like being female or being left-handed.

 

[Zaac]

I do not find negative judgments of all gay people to be "righteous." To me they sound self-righteous, not righteous.

Who has given negative judgments of all gay people? We're speaking to the sexual acts committed by two same-sex people.

 

[david_x]

just as skin color has been linked to genetics

You have a point? Color is not a sin.

There is no resemblance between being gay and being alcoholic.

What should you do about other people being gay? Nothing at all. It's not your business to judge us.

(I said assuming that it was a sin)
And yes I am bound to do something as you are bound to do something if I would sin.

Many alcoholics do think they are hurting themselves.

Being gay is not an addiction, nor is it in any way like alcoholism. Being gay is not a disease, not a disorder. Being gay is not something that one "recovers" from. Being gay is simply a characteristic, like being female or being left-handed.

It is however a sin. You can't recover, you have to be reborn.

 

[Ohioprof]

Who has given negative judgments of all gay people? We're speaking to the sexual acts committed by two same-sex people.

Your distinction is meaningless. The expression of love to a partner of the same sex is something that gay people do; it's an expression of who we are, just as the expression of love to a partner of the opposite sex is an expression of who heterosexuals are.

By judging our love as somehow negative or sinful, you are rendering a judgment against gay people. To deny it is to deny reality.

 

[Ohioprof]

You have a point? Color is not a sin.



(I said assuming that it was a sin)
And yes I am bound to do something as you are bound to do something if I would sin.



It is however a sin. You can't recover, you have to be reborn.

Being gay is not a sin.

 

[david_x]

Your distinction is meaningless. The expression of love to a partner of the same sex is something that gay people do; it's an expression of who we are, just as the expression of love to a partner of the opposite sex is an expression of who heterosexuals are.

By judging our love as somehow negative or sinful, you are rendering a judgment against gay people. To deny it is to deny reality.

We are called to love everyone.

 

[david_x]

Being gay is not a sin.

Do you know the meaning of assume?
I am trying to make a hypothetical comparison but no one will give me a straght answer.

 

[Ohioprof]

Do you know the meaning of assume?
I am trying to make a hypothetical comparison but no one will give me a straght answer.

Let's not assume.

 

[HaloHope]

[/sarcasm on]So homosexual acts are a sin in the eyes of some people here. But it's ok of course because gays can abstain their entire lives! The gay people can be happy too because Christians we are called to love everyone and they can just love their partner in the way they do everyone else![/sarcasm off]

Of course the above statement is entirely unacceptable.

As a Christian I do try and love everyone as best I can which is sometimes especially difficult to do. However when it comes to the love I feel for my partner I (and I know some of the anti-gay crowd out there who feel our relationships are sub-human may find this difficult to believe) is the same as that which a straight couple feels. Now whatever odd claim someone might make after this post, a straight couple love each other in a different way to how they love their friends. I will agree it's ok for gays to live their entire lives abstinent when..

A) No hetrosexuals ever have sex wih their partner ever ever again.
B) Hetrosexuals cannot publically display affection ever again (I mean if truth be told I find straight sex icky and I find straight kissing icky and seeing as so many people want to ban what they themselves find icky I thought I should jump on the bandwagon too)
C) While we are at it lets ban holding hands.

When those criteria are fulfilled then we'll talk





Of course that is never going to happen (nor do I want it to happen either), but I'm afraid telling a gay couple to be forever celibate is exactly the same as telling a straight couple to be celibate. I.E. Totally Ridiculous.

 

[david_x]

Let's not assume.

So you mean I'm right?