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What is so wrong with socialism?
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<blockquote data-quote="ThatRobGuy" data-source="post: 68425589" data-attributes="member: 123415"><p>Well, my CEO for one lol.</p><p></p><p>The company I work for hasn't had a single layoff in it's 27 year history.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, the stock clerks don't make as much as a CEO (nor should they...a 19 year old coming in off the street shouldn't make as much as one of the guys who helped build the place up)</p><p></p><p>Why is "making the same income" so important to you? Not all jobs are worth the same amount of money. I've worked for over a decade to improve my skills and become very good at my job...I'm worth more to an employer than the 17 year old who tears tickets at the movie theater...that's simple supply & demand.</p><p></p><p>Is your ideal world a scenario where every single worker gets the exact same thing regardless of the type of task they're performing? It seems like you're leaning even beyond socialism territory and treading the line of communism...you seem to be asking for 100% equality, enforced by the government.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do 66% of janitors have the correct skill-set and business acumen to run a fortune 500 company?</p><p></p><p>As someone who's been in the corporate world for a while now, I can tell you that high paid executives are usually appointed from within, or hired from another company where they had a lot of experience in their field...it's not very often that a 22 year old would be plucked right out of college to be a VP or C-level officer for a company. (I've never seen it happen)</p><p></p><p>The people who are CEOs were typically high ranking in the immediate former position yes...and before that, upper management, and before that middle management, etc.. etc...</p><p></p><p>I'm not aware of any fortune 500 CEOs that have made the jump directly to CEO without first climbing the ladder, either in their own company, or a previous company.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Education is one thing we'll agree on...I have no qualms with breaking libertarian ranks to endorse the idea of free college.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>***and you still didn't answer my question that I've asked twice pertaining to when this magic transition happens from "one of us" to "evil greed"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThatRobGuy, post: 68425589, member: 123415"] Well, my CEO for one lol. The company I work for hasn't had a single layoff in it's 27 year history. No, the stock clerks don't make as much as a CEO (nor should they...a 19 year old coming in off the street shouldn't make as much as one of the guys who helped build the place up) Why is "making the same income" so important to you? Not all jobs are worth the same amount of money. I've worked for over a decade to improve my skills and become very good at my job...I'm worth more to an employer than the 17 year old who tears tickets at the movie theater...that's simple supply & demand. Is your ideal world a scenario where every single worker gets the exact same thing regardless of the type of task they're performing? It seems like you're leaning even beyond socialism territory and treading the line of communism...you seem to be asking for 100% equality, enforced by the government. Do 66% of janitors have the correct skill-set and business acumen to run a fortune 500 company? As someone who's been in the corporate world for a while now, I can tell you that high paid executives are usually appointed from within, or hired from another company where they had a lot of experience in their field...it's not very often that a 22 year old would be plucked right out of college to be a VP or C-level officer for a company. (I've never seen it happen) The people who are CEOs were typically high ranking in the immediate former position yes...and before that, upper management, and before that middle management, etc.. etc... I'm not aware of any fortune 500 CEOs that have made the jump directly to CEO without first climbing the ladder, either in their own company, or a previous company. Education is one thing we'll agree on...I have no qualms with breaking libertarian ranks to endorse the idea of free college. ***and you still didn't answer my question that I've asked twice pertaining to when this magic transition happens from "one of us" to "evil greed" [/QUOTE]
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