What is so wrong with Mormonism?

[Ave Maria]

What is so wrong with Mormonism? Please back up any objections you have with scripture. And yes, I do accept the Deuterocanonicals as inspired scripture for the purposes of this thread.

 

[R3quiem]

From my point of view, the mormon church seems to incorporate a lot of things that aren't from the Bible, and are not passed down from traditions.

They believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three DISTINCT beings, but this is not in line with scripture.
"I and the Father are one." - John 10:30

They used to believe in plural marriage (although I think this has been stopped), but this is also not in line with scripture.
Matthew 19:5 -
and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?
Mark 10:8 -
and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one.

They believe that God resides near a star called Kolob. This implies that God is natural and subject to our universe. The Bible never says that God sits near any certain star; it doesn't support any of this.

They believe that God was once a man, but became God. The very first Bible verse tells us otherwise.
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. - Genesis 1:1

In much of the 1900s, the mormon church had very racist tendencies.

The entire religion was founded on the idea that its founder, Joseph Smith, Jr. found some "golden plates" in a box guarded by an angel. He read the plates and then gave them back to the angel, so we have no proof. This is a very shady origin for a religion.

 

[salida]

What is wrong with mormonism? The Book of Mormon. It isn't in the bible. Yes, I have heard that its an addition to the Bible, but the Bible isn't to have additions or subtractions - Rev 22: 18-19/Galations 1:8-9.

I have two family members who are mormon and I'm aware of their beliefs.

 

[hlaltimus]

What it will all boil down to is just this: Was Joseph Smith a true prophet qualified to add to the Scriptures or wasn't he? If Smith stood with the same status of a John the Apostle, then we had better listen to him with the same regard that we would any Bible writer. If Joseph Smith was not qualified though to dispense infallibly inspired revelation, then he can and should be disregarded as being a spokesman for God.

Revelation 21:14 "Now the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb."
Since twelve and only twelve Apostles were considered foundational New Testament authorities while upon Earth...Any thirteenth, fourteenth, or so-on dispenser of revelation is an utter fraud.

 

[WashedClean]

Let's start with just one erroneous belief:

They believe God was once a man in a body on earth. They believe we can become like God and rule our own planet. This contradicts scripture right and left. I can't even post all the scriptures that go against these beliefs. God is spirit, not man, not created, etc.

At this point, we could continue on to other beliefs that do not line up with scripture, but why bother?

 

[calidog]

What is so wrong with Mormonism?

The problems begin with the book of morman as the word of God. If you take out the book of mormon you alleiviate much of the problems.

 

[Secundulus]

The problems begin with the book of morman as the word of God. If you take out the book of mormon you alleiviate much of the problems.

I was a Mormon for about two years and I will be the first to say that Mormons are generally great people with great family values. On top of that, their evangilism is something to be emulated.

From a Catholic Christian perspective, what is wrong with them is that their beliefs are heretical as concerns the nature of Jesus Christ.

In general, they believe what which was originally proposed in the Arian Heresy, namely, that Jesus is a created being like us.

 

[Key]

What is so wrong with Mormonism? Please back up any objections you have with scripture. And yes, I do accept the Deuterocanonicals as inspired scripture for the purposes of this thread.

I have to wonder why you ask?

God Bless

Key
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[Aibrean]

They speak half-truths and they also contradict themselves by proving with scripture that doesn't match up to what they are saying...just look at their website.

" Jesus Christ taught that you must know the only true God to have eternal life ( John 17:3)."

They put this on their website, yet you even Satan knows God and Jesus. They don't even put the whole verse which said "God and Christ Jesus". You must believe in what I wrote below AND make Jesus Lord of your life.

"Knowing that we would commit sin in mortality, your loving Heavenly Father provided a Savior, Jesus Christ, who by His sacrifice would make it possible for all people who would comply with His gospel teachings to be forgiven through repentance and return to live with Him."

You can't just comply with the teachings...that's the whole "good person" belief. Being good doesn't save you.

" Eternal life is a gift of God given only to those who obey His Gospel

The “good news” of God’s plan for the salvation of mankind. At the center of His plan is the Atoning sacrifice of His son Jesus Christ, in whom alone salvation is possible. In its fulness, the gospel includes all of the commandments, principles, ordinances, and covenants whereby human beings can be forgiven of sin, overcome the world, and attain immortality and eternal life in the kingdom of God.


gospel?."

• Celestial Kingdom
  
  The highest of the three degrees or kingdoms of glory in heaven, where one is in the presence of Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. The glory of the celestial kingdom is compared to the glory of the sun in the scriptures. See also Terrestrial Kingdom, Telestial Kingdom.
  
  
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  [*]Celestial kingdom?—Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ reside in the celestial kingdom. If you live according to the Gospel
  
  The “good news” of God’s plan for the salvation of mankind. At the center of His plan is the Atoning sacrifice of His son Jesus Christ, in whom alone salvation is possible. In its fulness, the gospel includes all of the commandments, principles, ordinances, and covenants whereby human beings can be forgiven of sin, overcome the world, and attain immortality and eternal life in the kingdom of God.
  
  
  gospel? of Jesus Christ and are cleansed from sin by the Atonement
  
  The suffering and death of Jesus Christ, through which resurrection is provided to all mortals and eternal life is offered to those who have faith in Christ and repent of their sins.
  
  
  Atonement?, you will receive a place in this, the highest kingdom, where you will live in God’s presence and know complete joy.
  [*] Terrestrial Kingdom
  
  The middle degree or kingdom of the three degrees of glory in heaven. In the scriptures, the glory of the terrestrial kingdom is compared to the glory of the moon. See also Celestial Kingdom, Telestial Kingdom.
  
  
  Terrestrial kingdom?—People who refuse to accept the Gospel
  
  The “good news” of God’s plan for the salvation of mankind. At the center of His plan is the Atoning sacrifice of His son Jesus Christ, in whom alone salvation is possible. In its fulness, the gospel includes all of the commandments, principles, ordinances, and covenants whereby human beings can be forgiven of sin, overcome the world, and attain immortality and eternal life in the kingdom of God.
  
  
  gospel? of Jesus Christ but who live honorable lives will receive a place in the terrestrial kingdom.
  [*] Telestial Kingdom
  
  The lowest of the three degrees or kingdoms of glory in heaven. The scriptures compare the glory of the telestial kingdom to the glory of the stars. See also Celestial Kingdom, Terrestrial Kingdom.
  
  
  Telestial kingdom?—Those who continue in their sins and do not repent until after they have died, will eventually receive a place in the telestial kingdom.

You will NOT go to a "happy place" by being good. There is only one way and it's not by works.

Ephesians 2:4-10

But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

We can't do anything on our own. The Bible says so.

Anything is a cult that believes there are other means to "get to heaven" than by believing Jesus is Lord and Savior and that he is the ONLY way, truth, and life and take him as Lord of their life and realize that living a "perfect" life is meaningless without that anchor.

Heavenly Father then sent angels and the Holy Ghost

Also called the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God, and the Comforter. He witnesses, or testifies of Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ and reveals and teaches the truth.


Holy Ghost? to teach Adam and Eve the Plan of Salvation, the

The great plan prepared by our Father in Heaven before the creation of the world to enable His children to come to earth, receive mortal bodies, and return to live with Him and their families in the life to come. The Atonement of Jesus Christ is central to the plan of salvation, as it makes possible the overcoming of spiritual death, or sin, and the overcoming of physical death by the power of His resurrection.


plan of salvation?. Central to this plan is the Atonement

The suffering and death of Jesus Christ, through which resurrection is provided to all mortals and eternal life is offered to those who have faith in Christ and repent of their sins.


Atonement? of Jesus Christ, which enables God’s children to overcome the effects of the Fall and to obtain eternal life by obedience.

Where do they PULL this stuff from? God didn't reveal Jesus in Genesis! The "plan of salvation" as the Mormon's put it didn't "work" until AFTER Jesus became the human sacrifice....that's why they offered up animals (duhh...CAIN and ABEL!)

n the Bible, Jesus told His Apostle

One sent forth to serve as a special witness of Jesus Christ. There are fifteen Apostles living on the earth today. They make up the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Church.


Apostles?, “Other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd” ( John 10:16). Soon after He was resurrected, the Lord visited these “other sheep”—the inhabitants of ancient America.

He visited ancient America??? Then why have we not heard about it from the Indians who are GREAT storytellers. Not only that but present day, [SIZE=-1]3-5 percent of all Native Americans know Jesus personally. If he visited and performed signs and wonders (well who is to say he didn't go to "America" but where does it say he DID in the Bible?) wouldn't you think that percentage would be a little bit higher? [/SIZE]

 

[NavyGuy7]

What is so wrong with Mormonism? Please back up any objections you have with scripture. And yes, I do accept the Deuterocanonicals as inspired scripture for the purposes of this thread.

Other than being a CULT you mean? Watch a movie called "The God Makers," or something along that line. It explains a lot of things about Mormonism.

(Plz correct if I got movie title wrong)

Also, the book of Mormon not only contradicts itself, but with the Bible too. And the geography is WAY off. He's got rivers where there should be deserts, and whatnot. It's a total work of fiction, trust me.

 

[Aibrean]

Other than being a CULT you mean? Watch a movie called "The God Makers," or something along that line. It explains a lot of things about Mormonism.

(Plz correct if I got movie title wrong)

Also, the book of Mormon not only contradicts itself, but with the Bible too. And the geography is WAY off. He's got rivers where there should be deserts, and whatnot. It's a total work of fiction, trust me.

They believe they will be "little gods".

 

[YoungArmenian]

My theory is that any denomination of Christianity made by a man (Mormonism, Protestant, Seventh-Day Adventist, etc) is to be avoided - we would be following man instead of God as a result.

 

[Aibrean]

My theory is that any denomination of Christianity made by a man (Mormonism, Protestant, Seventh-Day Adventist, etc) is to be avoided - we would be following man instead of God as a result.

Hey buddy, if you are pentecostal then you are protestant. That was a very ill-educated statement. Protestant isn't a denomination

 

[Aprill]

Hey buddy, if you are pentecostal then you are protestant. That was a very ill-educated statement. Protestant isn't a denomination

Really Protestant isn't a denomination?

What is it then?

 

[heron]

Joseph Smith, Jr. ...He read the plates and then gave them back to the angel, so we have no proof. This is a very shady origin for a religion.

It seems so these days, but think about our own religion! We had stone tablets. Many of our established beliefs come from previous revelations.

So it's a little humbling for us to realize that any one of us could feel that we had heard from God because of a visitation that was so shaking. I worship with many people who feel they hear from God every day, and often get revelations, prophetic words, and visions.

At what point does any one of us suddenly realize that we had heard from the wrong source?

Usually others around us keep us in line, and check new information against established information. I don't know much about Smith's fellowship friends, but I would guess they were so enthralled hearing about a supernatural intervention, that they forgot to check it against what they knew to be true. The message was about a correction, a new direction.

That would be a good time to stop and check the road map.

You will find a similar story at the ground floor of Islam. The revelation was about correcting current wrongs in the system, but also about dealing with things in a new way. Both started with knowledge of the scriptures, but implemented a twist.

Most denominations come from need for corrections. I think that any power that stepped in during a need for change would have been welcomed. We have to be comfortable with the decisions we make before God, and the decisions we make before man.

My personal concern about Mormonism is, as others said, a reliance on one's own goodness to get approval from God. These efforts toward living an honest, clean life are in line with scriptures, and acceptable to God, but are not our means toward eternal life in heaven. Access to Heaven is a gift... an invitation that had terms.

Our own personal approach to God is what gets judged-- not the building we sit in or the friends we keep. I believe that there will be some Mormons in heaven and some great Protestant preachers who didn't get in.

 

[Aibrean]

Really Protestant isn't a denomination?

What is it then?

Dictionary:

any Western Christian who is not an adherent of a Catholic, Anglican, or Eastern Church. 2.an adherent of any of those Christian bodies that separated from the Church of Rome during the Reformation, or of any group descended from them.

 

[Merlin]

Nothing is wrong with Mormonism any more than Islam or any other religion [as a religion].
It's just NOT christianity.
Paul wrote to the Galatians:
Galatians 1:6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel
7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!

 

[ContentInHim]

Mormonism teaches a different Jesus from what the apostles and Paul taught. Paul specifically warns against this!

 

[Shubunkin]

When looking for a new church a couple of years ago, I began studying the history of the church, the Church of the Apostles. Our Church has apostolic succession. This was important to me.

A lot of churches have their beginnings much later than this. It just goes to prove that mankind can think up a lot of things, and it doesn't necessarily prove to be true. Without apostolic succession, it just cannot be trusted, in my view.

 

[Secundulus]

Really Protestant isn't a denomination?

What is it then?

Protestant refers to those who protested against the Roman Church during the Reformation.

All Western Churches that are not Catholic are Protestant.