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What is science?

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Chi_Cygni said:
Mmmm - USAF disappeared rather quickly
Yeah, he is rather good at that. Don't worry he will be back. Usually when this happens he jumps off and hits the www. Right now he is on a Physics sight. He will come back, reference a post to me and paste all sort of QM info. to try and show me he is a really sharp guy (coughing). He will try to pass it off as his own words, although we will notice instantly they are not his words, because it will be coherent! I will then ask him to expound on it and he will curtly say, "You figure it out for yourself." Then he will run back to his barracks and furiously spit-shine his other pair of shoes while muttering about both women and people who do not "think" like he does and how lost and confused we all are!!" :)
 
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you know, you don’t really have to respond. You can just set back and watch the idiots make excuses for you because you don’t believe in their theory, then when they believe everyone must present their educational background for what they say to even be read, and when people really careless what others think, then they go on the attack until that person gives them what they want. Yes, I have Engineering Degrees. SO what? Yes I can really careless if you wanted to know that, in fact I didn’t really care either way, what does it mean to me huh? if you know my education? yes I have Degrees, do I really y care if you know that? no I don’t do I care if you want proof of that? no I don’t, do I care if you want me to do some nice little calculations for you? No I don’t



WHY? You explain to me what I have to do prove to you? Do I believe in Evolution, NO! why? Because it’s a fictitious theory, do I care if you wish for me to give you evidence to that effect? No, why? Because I don’t really care. What is it going to solve? I’m still going to disbelieve evolution and your still going to believe evolution. Your not going to get anywhere LorentzHa !







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He claimed he came to this forum to "support" a friend and to help them. LOL.

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see, you have no idea why I came here. You don’t listen to anything I say because you already made your mind up. I don’t believe in Evolution, you claim I am an idiot. I claim you’re the idiot for being to stupid to know the truth if evolution was real or not. Your not going to get anywhere LorentzHA, so drop the excuses evildead (fadizzle) is a guy in another forum I talk in. If I remember correctly, Faddizle believes in evolution, or started a debate about whether or not to teach it in school. So do you think I was there to support him?





 
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USAF said:
you know, you don’t really have to respond. You can just set back and watch the idiots make excuses for you because you don’t believe in their theory,
The idiot's make excuses for me because I don't believe in THEIR theory? HUH? The only theory I do NOT believe in is CreationISM. So are you calling yourself an idiot?

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WHY? You explain to me what I have to do prove to you? Do I believe in Evolution, NO! why? Because it’s a fictitious theory, do I care if you wish for me to give you evidence to that effect? No, why? Because I don’t really care. What is it going to solve? I’m still going to disbelieve evolution and your still going to believe evolution. Your not going to get anywhere LorentzHa !
You clai mto have degrees (multiple but your mind or intellect does not show it. maybe you got them online somewhere or from Sally Struthers. That is your business. I how I do enjoy a good after dinner comedy!! I am full on Turkey, now I sit back in my den and watch you spread your fairy dust. Don't you have a Stealth B1, to land somwehere? Oh no you don't... because you actually have to have a head to be a pilot! Anywhere being your specific job? You are correct, I applied but they rejected me for having TWO hemispheres in my brain. LOL

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see, you have no idea why I came here. You don’t listen to anything I say because you already made your mind up.
Yeah I do have an idea from what you told us. Do you have a severe memory problem??? Those were YOUR words. Someone asked you why you were there and you said to support Mr. Fadizzle. You are hilarious, this is what I was pointing out to you the other day- you make a statement, someone repeats it and then you fight about something that was your OWN WORDS, in the first place. I recommend Aricept.

USAF said:
I don’t believe in Evolution, you claim I am an idiot.
No I do not claim it. I state it, as fact!

USAF said:
I claim you’re the idiot for being to stupid to know the truth if evolution was real or not.
LOL, this is choice :). I know sometimes in heavy traffic I have people shake their fist at me and yell, "You idiot, you believe in evolution!" I just tell them I cannot help it, I thrive on fairy tales and that is how I desperately try to explain the 3 races on the planet and their different dental markings, different blood proteins. All of the speciation etc. Please forgive me USAF, CreationISM is too complex for my little pee brain. Plus I am just a woman also ;)-DOUBLE whammy!

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So do you think I was there to support him?
Those were your words. YOU said you were!! LOL If you hold on I could probably hook you up with a script for Aricept or some free samples. You have to be one of the thickest most unintelligable people I have EVER come acrosss, inside the forum OR out.
 
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What a pity!! He not only has me inches from converting to atheism, but I am slowly losing respect for our armed forces an institution I once held in high regard.

And really, you are right. You have nothing to prove to me or anyone else, you already have! I am convinced about you. :) You stated how educated you are and when people wanted to know in what, you are the one who became hostile. You should have just kept your mouth shut and let us believe you were a fool ;) silly us.
 
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USAF said:
you know, you don’t really have to respond. You can just set back and watch the idiots make excuses for you because you don’t believe in their theory, then when they believe everyone must present their educational background for what they say to even be read, and when people really careless what others think, then they go on the attack until that person gives them what they want. Yes, I have Engineering Degrees. SO what? Yes I can really careless if you wanted to know that, in fact I didn’t really care either way, what does it mean to me huh? if you know my education? yes I have Degrees, do I really y care if you know that? no I don’t do I care if you want proof of that? no I don’t, do I care if you want me to do some nice little calculations for you? No I don’t
Forgive me, I am a little rusty on my JIBBERISH, next time would you consider posting in ENGLISH?
 
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USAF-I wish my parent's would have bought you for me for christmas when I was about 6. I could have kept myself entertained for days! This is actually quite enjoyable (on a moronic level) kind of like riding a merry- go -round as an adult. Fun, but you hope your friends don't appear, to see you.
 
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I define science as the thing crazy people believe! Those crazy people think that this big boom just created everything from nothing! Now, if you ask me, I would have to have A LOT of faith in something like that to believe it. Intellegent design people, duh! The world couldn't have just come from a blind combination of spontaneous events! All this stuff about atoms and stuff like this, that only makes me MORE sure that there is a greater power! If you dare to tell me all of that was just an ACCIDENT, maybe you need to have your head examined!

Dieu est partout!
 
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Les Grands Pieds said:
I define science as the thing crazy people believe! Those crazy people think that this big boom just created everything from nothing! Now, if you ask me, I would have to have A LOT of faith in something like that to believe it. Intellegent design people, duh! The world couldn't have just come from a blind combination of spontaneous events! All this stuff about atoms and stuff like this, that only makes me MORE sure that there is a greater power! If you dare to tell me all of that was just an ACCIDENT, maybe you need to have your head examined!

Dieu est partout!
Not the world, the Universe. The world formed quite a long time after the Universe.
 
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Les Grands Pieds said:
If you dare to tell me all of that was just an ACCIDENT, maybe you need to have your head examined!

Dieu est partout!
The point is that God may work His miracles within the laws of physics as we know them. Science simply reveals His handiwork. Believing that life arose as happy coincidence or by the power of God is simply a matter of faith...not one of science.

Faith does not disqualify science Les Grands Pieds.
 
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Les Grands Pieds[/font]] I define science as the thing crazy people believe!
The computer you are using to type this on was from one of those crazy people, Your car, The medicine you take, The electricity you use, the lights in your home.
 
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Les Grands Pieds said:
Those crazy people think that this big boom just created everything from nothing! Now, if you ask me, I would have to have A LOT of faith in something like that to believe it.

Because of course we can assume god always has been around and always will. He just has been there since forever but theres no way the big bang could work in the same way obviously, right???
 
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The idiot's make excuses for me because I don't believe in THEIR theory? HUH? The only theory I do NOT believe in is CreationISM. So are you calling yourself an idiot?

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see that’s my point LorentzHA, can you figure it out now? You do not believe in creation, I do. I do not believe in Evolution, you do…now explain to me how any of us presenting Data will change the others mind? Now you can figure out why I really care less to debate about Evolution because our (me and you and all your friends ) minds are already made up. It’s a void argument. It’s a waste of space. If you can figure this sentence out, then you can figure out what I have been telling you for 2 weeks. But then again you didn’t get the sentence the last time I said it, so I doubt you will get it this time. Which means you will analyze this paragraph as well



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Yeah I do have an idea from what you told us. Do you have a severe memory problem??? Those were YOUR words. Someone asked you why you were there and you said to support Mr. Fadizzle. You are hilarious, this is what I was pointing out to you the other day- you make a statement, someone repeats it and then you fight about something that was your OWN WORDS, in the first place. I recommend Aricept

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??? thts probably the problem. You guys are too busy ignoring everything to actually read things. Yes I support Faddizle but definitely not on religion or evolution. me and Feddizle Disagree on some things (religion of course), I do support him as in his other beliefs. But why would I support him on teaching evolution? Or believing in evolution? He had posted a link to this forum in the other forum, I came in here to see. I never agreed nor supported him on the belief in Evolution.

 
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see that’s my point LorentzHA, can you figure it out now? You do not believe in creation, I do. I do not believe in Evolution, you do…now explain to me how any of us presenting Data will change the others mind?

cos data falsifies stuff dude. only you don't seem to know that.
Now you can figure out why I really care less to debate about Evolution because our (me and you and all your friends ) minds are already made up.

well call it having an education.
It’s a void argument. It’s a waste of space. If you can figure this sentence out, then you can figure out what I have been telling you for 2 weeks. But then again you didn’t get the sentence the last time I said it, so I doubt you will get it this time. Which means you will analyze this paragraph as well
you might be an incredible waste of time. the problem is that people like lucaspa don't really want Christianity damaging by your inane drivel. not mentioning names, but I know of a number of fundamentalists who have given up on christianity totally when they realised that they couldn't take it literally, because a literal interpretation is, quite frankly, wrong. in order to believe in a literal interpretation, you have to more or less cut yourself off from reality and live in a little fictional world of your own devising.
 
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Les Grands Pieds said:
I define science as the thing crazy people believe! Those crazy people think that this big boom just created everything from nothing! Now, if you ask me, I would have to have A LOT of faith in something like that to believe it.
not really dude. the big bang itself is pretty much a certainty. there are piles of evidence for it, and not a scrap against it. Of course we sdon't know how the big bang started, but there are a number of possible explanations, and guess what, God is one of them! cool eh?
Intellegent design people, duh!
ID is in itself a bit whacky... there is an awful lot of unintelligent design in us! call it algorithmic design I think.
The world couldn't have just come from a blind combination of spontaneous events!
too true dude! and guess what? chemistry physics and biology aren't random events, so no problem there whatsoever!
All this stuff about atoms and stuff like this, that only makes me MORE sure that there is a greater power!
what stuff would that be? before you reply, I suggest that you do a google search on the weak anthropic principle and stuff!
If you dare to tell me all of that was just an ACCIDENT, maybe you need to have your head examined!

accident is a bit of an emotive word, and isn't really appropriate in science. Since accident means that you intended to do one thing, and accidentally (or unintentionally) did something bad. If you drove into a tree, that is an accident, if a tree fell on your car, it isn't :) semantics is cool too you know.. be careful with your words.
 
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Hahahaha, I always find myself having the need to clear up the stuff I say.

My point was, this big bang theory and stuff is just a bunch of garbage. God was there. There is intellegent design, and there is no way that everything around us originated from nothing. Also, if all this stuff originated from something, how is it that thing got there in the first place? I refuse to believe that the universe just formed from an extremely lucky sequence of events. Why is it that I'm not that lucky? hahahahahaha!

How is it that the world keeps on rotating around the sun at the ideal language and the sun heats it just right, and it can keep a perfect rotation so as not to kill us! That just amazes me looking at it from the "science" that it just regulates itself by chance. If this is true, we sure are lucky.

I'm not saying all science is crazy, in fact science has proved the existance of a high power on MANY occasions. For instance, the story of the time of the great floods is totally possible, because there is evidence of sea shells on mile-high mountains! Come on science, the Bible is not just a bunch of junk. There is power and truth in his word!
 
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USAF said:
see that’s my point LorentzHA, can you figure it out now? You do not believe in creation, I do. I do not believe in Evolution, you do…now explain to me how any of us presenting Data will change the others mind? Now you can figure out why I really care less to debate about Evolution because our (me and you and all your friends ) minds are already made up. It’s a void argument. It’s a waste of space. If you can figure this sentence out, then you can figure out what I have been telling you for 2 weeks. But then again you didn’t get the sentence the last time I said it, so I doubt you will get it this time. Which means you will analyze this paragraph as well
Then why do you keep coming back, to annoy? No you are correct last time I could not figure your sentence out, I am not fluent in JIBBERISH.

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??? thts probably the problem. You guys are too busy ignoring everything to actually read things. Yes I support Faddizle but definitely not on religion or evolution. me and Feddizle Disagree on some things (religion of course), I do support him as in his other beliefs. But why would I support him on teaching evolution? Or believing in evolution? He had posted a link to this forum in the other forum, I came in here to see. I never agreed nor supported him on the belief in Evolution
And reality goes whooshing by, grab it if you can!
 
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