There are many sinners claiming that its okay to sin. Is there any redeeming quality to sin? If you want to get to Heaven do you have to raise a little Hell?
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What is right about sin?
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If it wasn't for sin, preachers would be out of work. It's the gas the Christian religion runs on. That's why the naughty things people do are cast as sins; it's a practical necessity.
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Sin is an ill defined term at best.
In the past I have heard sin defined as "going against god's will or word". However, that definition begs a multitude of others.
Who then decides what is god's will and what god's word really mean?
Seem awfully subjective.
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Are there? Really?
From within the Christian worldview? Seems to me like the whole drama god has set up for us would be pointless without "sin". "Sin" is a necessary prerequisite for the entire salvation/forgiveness/love plot.
(On a related note, I´m always wondering why Judas has such a bad rep among Christians)
Don´t know, but apparently god considered it necessary to create a hell along with heaven.
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How about..many of us don't even believe in a hell so there is nothing wrong with sinning. Besides..christ was crucified for a reason, certainly not so we'd have to all be nuns or monks. The price was already paid..correct? So sin away.
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Given: Sin is going against God's will.
Given: Everything that happens is God's will.
Conclude: Nothing that happens which isn't God's will, aka. there is no sin.
Of course, I don't think we are willing to agree with this, but yet I always here the same two givens coming out of people's mouths.
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I have a feeling that the OP was talking about people who believe that some things classified in the Bible as "sins" are not actually "sinful" but still considers themselves to be Christians. After all, only followers of the God of Abraham believe in "sin" right? (Though, according to Wikipedia, in the Hindu religions there is a similar concept.)
Atheists certainly don't believe in "sin", so they wouldn't say it is okay to do so, they would just say, "We don't believe in sin." Maybe some sort of worshiper of the Christian Devil (not to be confused with Satanists) might tell people, "It is okay to sin"? Though I have never met anyone who has said such a thing. *shrug*
Atheists certainly don't believe in "sin", so they wouldn't say it is okay to do so, they would just say, "We don't believe in sin." Maybe some sort of worshiper of the Christian Devil (not to be confused with Satanists) might tell people, "It is okay to sin"? Though I have never met anyone who has said such a thing. *shrug*
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Sure it is, but why would anyone want to redefine this word, beyond the multiple religious definitions that it has, anyways.
I even think there can be a god-free interpretation of the bible, btw.
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I suppose you would only need to redefine "sin" if you thought that God was an inherent part of its present definition, though.
Do Buddhists have a concept of sin?
I even think there can be a god-free interpretation of the bible, btw.
Thank goodness! Otherwise a considerable proportion of my degree would be a waste of time.
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Seeing that I have come across this term only in theistic contexts I am assuming that this is the very tradition from and in which this term developed (I am not entirely sure, though. Would be an interesting topic).
Sorry to be a pain in the back, but I can´t make sense of this wording, cantata. It sounds like sin is a thing existing out there of which people have concepts.
Meaningful questions, imo, would be:
1. Is the term "sin" part of the Buddhist teachings? (it isn´t, as far as I know)
2. Does Buddhism involve a concept (under a different name) that resembles one of the theistic concepts called "sin"? (also no, as far as I know).
I´m not that knowledgeable when it comes to Buddhist teachings, though, so better not take my word for it. Maybe one of the resident Buddhists can shed light on this.
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Yes, it was not intended to be a leading question. I don't know the answer myself.
To me, the phrase "I have no concept of sin" does not imply the existence of a thing called sin of which I have no concept, and hence, the phrase "Buddhists have a concept of sin" need not (in my opinion) imply the actual existence of sin either.
Anyway, I suspect you are right Re: Buddhists and sin.
I just wondered.I wonder if there are any non-theistic religions which do include some notion comparable to that of sin amongst the concepts they espouse.
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