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How does that help?Not if what constituted their concept of the world was restricted to the Mediterranean basin
Those who have been deceived, conned, never want toWell, there are those in the religion who advance the deceit, and those who are captive to it. Where they all align is up to them, and not for me to say as I don't know every heart and am not God. What men have made of Gods work is what they have done. I don't need to be holy to see and point out the contradictions in the matter, which are essentially self evident. I'm curious as to why you think I must be holy to examine and reject what you propose, and you needn't be holy to embrace and propose it. Clearly the fabricators of the religion aren't holy as what they have done to it is anything but. I don't question God or the bible. I question what men have done to it, and the religion they've drawn up from it. It seems a trespass to me for wicked men to take up the holy bible and make of it what seems them good. And then pretend to do Gods work. From my perspective it is akin to a horde of heathens ransacking a temple. There is your unholiness, regardless their assumed roles, one with a staff, another holding a book, another in a robe, and so forth. Where is the glory and honor to God in this self serving and self glorifying display. Do you think that God is pleased to be told who will be his servants as if he had no say in the matter. Or pleased to be a hostage to gross trespass. God lives. The bible is true. And the religion of Christianity is chaos by its own doings. Yet God suffers it to be so, just as he suffers all people everywhere to do what they do.
So you are different coz god told you different.I am no different. The charity of the living God has caused me to know that my true life is in his spirit rather than in myself or my life alone.
Let’s see..The flood is irrelevant in that regard. The bible testifies of God. It may be that mankind was limited to an area as opposed to the whole globe. And the flood killed them all locally. So they only needed the local wildlife population on the ark to repopulate the area after the flood resided. I don't really know. The bible also says that God spoke to Job from a whirlwind. But from my perspective in reading the scene depicted, the whirlwind was the round and round debate the priests had with Job who had come to sit with him in his misery. Try reading it and then tell me it doesn't make your head spin. People misread the scriptures. In another place it is written that the scriptures are good for the man of God. Many take that to mean that reading and studying scriptures make one a man of God. But that isn't what it says. It says the scriptures are good for the man of God. In other words, if raw meat is good for a lion. It doesn't mean that eating raw meat will make you a lion. One must be either a lion or a man of God beforehand, for raw meat or scriptures to be good for you.
I'm not trying to impress anyone. I'm trying to show bible based religion (which parades about as Christianity) for what it really is, which is essentially a gigantic 2000 year old hoax. It isn't authentic. It's a hostile takeover of what began as Jesus's peaceable gospel of repentance. And it has morphed into tens of thousands of differing denominations, each competing for the souls of men. It isn't the work of God. There is no salvation in it. And it holds 2.4 billion people captive in ignorance in its belly. Does it impress you?
Yes, taking as a benchmark that God lives and the bible testimony is true. What men have made of it is something else. The evidence resides in the fact that that which parades as Christianity is comprised of tens of thousands of differing denominations, with no two alike due to their differing interpretations of the same bible. So the one true God isn't in the religion. It is the religion of man. Man is the God of it. The true God is left out of it. They have left the benchmark. The bible which teaches one God, one Christ, and one gospel, stands in silent testimony against the religion which teaches tens of thousands of different Gods, Christs, and gospels. There is your contradiction. Unless of course you are suggesting that the bible is wrong and the religion is right.
I believe God destroyed the wicked and saved the upright by means of a flood and an ark. I don't need scientific proof of that anymore than I need it to prove the existence of God. What I find appealing about the bible is that it establishes in testimony, our origin, our creation, our fall, and the means to our salvation. Besides, what does science know about the face of the land 4500 years ago when it can't conclude whether or not eating an egg is good for us today.Let’s see..
a true believer believes tthe Bible because its Irrelevant that
some parts are just completely false.
Your “ local area” required water over two miles deep.
Even you don’t believe that happened.
How is this “ true” belief.
I'm no different than anyone else in accountability to God. My knowledge that God lives comes from his knowing of me by his spirit. I haven't concluded, reasoned, or formulated that. I haven't formed an opinion of God from learning about God from scriptures. I don't believe God lives, but rather I know he does because of his spirit which he sent to know me. How else can one know God if not that one is first known by him. So no, it's not all in my head. It's in my whole heart, mind, body, and soul. What is in yours?So you are different coz god told you different.
Billions of others are deceived, but not you.
Or, vastly more likely, it’s all in your head.
From front to back, the bible teaches one gospel, one Christ and one God. But traditional Christianity teaches tens of thousands of different interpretations of it. So they teach tens of thousands of different gospels, Christs, and Gods. How can you not see the contradiction in that?Let me get this straight: You're not comparing traditional Christianity to your religion.
Then you say you're just looking at "traditional Christianity" (i.e. "it" in your second statement) for "what it is."
Ok then. By which sources are you making your evaluation about "traditional Christianity"?
I'm asking because so far I'm not seeing that you're presenting anything of evidential substance. In fact, your construal about how your conclusions are all somehow "self-evident" doesn't seem genuine or substantive to me.
At one time it did give them credibility amongst their peers. What they missed out on was the fact they were to be outcasts in this world, not absorbed in its ways.And yet they call it Christianity as if they were united in Christ.
So a True believer is someone who believes what he chooses toI believe God destroyed the wicked and saved the upright by means of a flood and an ark. I don't need scientific proof of that anymore than I need it to prove the existence of God. What I find appealing about the bible is that it establishes in testimony, our origin, our creation, our fall, and the means to our salvation. Besides, what does science know about the face of the land 4500 years ago when it can't conclude whether or not eating an egg is good for us today.
So a true Chridtian is like you, not special but randomlyI'm no different than anyone else in accountability to God. My knowledge that God lives comes from his knowing of me by his spirit. I haven't concluded, reasoned, or formulated that. I haven't formed an opinion of God from learning about God from scriptures. I don't believe God lives, but rather I know he does because of his spirit which he sent to know me. How else can one know God if not that one is first known by him. So no, it's not all in my head. It's in my whole heart, mind, body, and soul. What is in yours?
Why would I expect that all Christians everywhere and throughout all time would agree among themselves on every sentence found in both the Old Testament and/or the New Testament when the Bible wasn't given as a package deal?From front to back, the bible teaches one gospel, one Christ and one God. But traditional Christianity teaches tens of thousands of different interpretations of it. So they teach tens of thousands of different gospels, Christs, and Gods. How can you not see the contradiction in that?
Well, that's all nice and dandy, but we have to assume, too, that the Critical Scholars of the Bible who think that 2 Peter isn't quite authentic aren't simply blowing smoke. But who knows for sure?Here, read Peter: "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." 2Peter 20-21
Yet here is this multi headed creature posing as Christianity which is overrun with private interpretations of those holy scriptures. They are all different from one another. None of them are the same. And yet they call it Christianity as if they were united in Christ.
Strange new meaning for the word “ aware”.Why worship a God you don't know when you can worship the image of the one whose image you've constructed and with whom you are familiar? If that is Christianity for the sake of worship, then love is love whether it is love of evil or good. John, in Revelation said he saw an angel bring the everlasting gospel to mankind. Then he saw an angel in following declare that Babylon has fallen. Where in traditional Christianity has an angel delivered the everlasting gospel to mankind. The only one I'm aware of is the one who delivered the Book of Mormon to Joseph Smith.
Why worship a God you don't know when you can worship the image of the one whose image you've constructed and with whom you are familiar? If that is Christianity for the sake of worship, then love is love whether it is love of evil or good. John, in Revelation said he saw an angel bring the everlasting gospel to mankind. Then he saw an angel in following declare that Babylon has fallen. Where in traditional Christianity has an angel delivered the everlasting gospel to mankind. The only one I'm aware of is the one who delivered the Book of Mormon to Joseph Smith.
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