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It depends where. Most ROCOR are more conservative, they're even offended if your kids are noisy. Most OCA will assume you haven't been there in a long time and will commune you without question. And of course, many are somewhere in the middle.
sadly it's more than one in nyIt may have been true of one parish, which several people reported on, and without it being understood that they had all visited the same parish, it has grown into a monster.
It is that open sometimes. It depends on who is serving. I have also seen fights break out with the priest in the communion line over it too.I don't think anything in your first paragraph is untrue, but that doesn't mean the OCA communes everyone. I have been around to many Orthodox parishes and never seen communion as open as you are claiming. certainly not enough to be a stereotype.
It is that open sometimes. It depends on who is serving. I have also seen fights break out with the priest in the communion line over it too.
I wouldn't worry about blending in. just go and soak in the experience. I'd say check out a service on YouTube so you can see what it's like.
I agree!
I have been to Russian Orthodox Church services in Perm near the Ural und elsewhere near Perm.
And also in Baden-Baden in Germany.
And I just blended in.
And it always was a solemn and pleasant and moving experience!
There's no canon that bars simply being a homosexual from receiving Communion. The catch is not being celibate. That has been the entire Orthodox Church's basic position here in the USA; and I've heard this across the three major jurisdictions. I.E, a celibate homosexual may commune, but a non-celibate one may not (generally speaking)I suppose you think its untrue that there are several OCA parishes that commune homosexuals as well and that there are unrepentant Origenists within the OCA ranks, including a Bishop (this is not an accusation, the former is based upon firsthand knowledge including a priest who is a personal friend who left the OCA), and the latter from the written and spoken statements of that Bishop.
As someone who has lead an extremely transient life the last nine years I can not tell you how wrong you are. I have been a visitor to many parishes; OCA, ROCOR, Antiochian, etc on both US coasts including the Deep South (peace be unto y'all!) And I have actually been denied Communion from OCA parishes for not introducing myself beforehand or at least emailing or calling the priest prior. Or because the priest didn't check their email in time. Usually when I email or call I'll explain who I am, where I'm from, and either give a description of myself so they know who I am at the chalice, or just simply say "Constantine, Navy" when I receive Communion AFTER sorting that out with the priest.And so does everyone meet the stereotype? No. But if you are on vacation, chances are you can just show up at an OCA parish and they will commune you.
Yep. All the OCA parishes in this Pennsylvania area (Diocese of Eastern Pennsylvania) are tightly interconnected. We are pretty much just extended church families. St Tikhon’s Seminary summer camp, monastery visits, and retreats also help to glue us altogether.And since you seem to be picking on Northeast PA here, chances are pretty good that the priests know who the people are beforehand anyway, which parish they are from, and, whom their spiritual father is since the OCA family tree in Northeast PA is more tumbleweed than tree! Just like the majority of ROCOR in America!
yes, sometimes. I have been OCA a while now, so I am aware of our issues. that said, it's incorrect to just simply say the OCA doesn't ask when folks approach the Chalice.
Father bless,
What do you do if if someone you don't know approaches the chalice? Just curious as I've never seen it happen personally.
And then just politely say that they can have antidoron or something?
Fights break out? Like a fistfight? This seems unlikely, do you mean someone arguing?It is that open sometimes. It depends on who is serving. I have also seen fights break out with the priest in the communion line over it too.
I think stuff of this sounds good online but has no real relevance in the real world.There's no canon that bars simply being a homosexual from receiving Communion. The catch is not being celibate. That has been the entire Orthodox Church's basic position here in the USA; and I've heard this across the three major jurisdictions. I.E, a celibate homosexual may commune, but a non-celibate one may not (generally speaking)
And how do you know that these clergy are unrepentant? Are you a priest, much less the one whom they confess to? Are you their spiritual father? Have you remembered to take the log out of your eye before trying to take the splinter out of there's? That's their salvation, let them deal with theirs and you deal with yours.
As someone who has lead an extremely transient life the last nine years I can not tell you how wrong you are. I have been a visitor to many parishes; OCA, ROCOR, Antiochian, etc on both US coasts including the Deep South (peace be unto y'all!) And I have actually been denied Communion from OCA parishes for not introducing myself beforehand or at least emailing or calling the priest prior. Or because the priest didn't check their email in time. Usually when I email or call I'll explain who I am, where I'm from, and either give a description of myself so they know who I am at the chalice, or just simply say "Constantine, Navy" when I receive Communion AFTER sorting that out with the priest.
So again, chances are that these folks have made similar arrangements beforehand and you simply don't know about it because you're not the priest of that/those given parish/es. And since you seem to be picking on Northeast PA here, chances are pretty good that the priests know who the people are beforehand anyway, which parish they are from, and, whom their spiritual father is since the OCA family tree in Northeast PA is more tumbleweed than tree! Just like the majority of ROCOR in America!
I think stuff of this sounds good online but has no real relevance in the real world.
depends on how they approach the Chalice. but if I am really wary, I will just ask them who their bishop is.
I always am fascinated by these differences in tradition (minuscule t). In Romanian church (ROEA in my case) it is not really possible to approach without being known ahead of time that you would because you must have had Confession that day and have been given the "go ahead". It's not a spur of the moment situation, so to say. I wonder about Russian because I know some Russians who have the same rules... I think they are ROCOR, but I'm not sure. Both my Romanian and my Russian acquaintances "gossip" on how "the Greeks are so lax" in this regard. "You could have gone to Confession three weeks ago and still be allowed to partake" (I actually don't know if that's true. Is it???)... Is OCA proper also more lax about who can approach on their own initiative?
I frequently serve as an usher, and if I or my usher partner see someone we don't recognize getting in line, we'll ask them if they're Orthodox.depends on how they approach the Chalice. but if I am really wary, I will just ask them who their bishop is.
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