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<blockquote data-quote="jtc" data-source="post: 9176" data-attributes="member: 479"><p>read romans 7 what is the first thing paul says for i speak to them that know th law and in verse 14 he reiterates he is refferring to some one under the law and thats why he says in verse 24 who will save him from this condition. he gives the answer that jesus christ can save him . if he were saying this is his present tense he would be tottally contradicting chapters 6 and 8. read romans 6:1 shall we continue in sin that grace may abound god forbid that is some very strong language. read the whole chapter. we are dead to sin if we did die to ourselves and raised from the dead in christ. read chapter 8 concerning romans 7:14.It says in verses 8:6-14 It says if you are carnal you can not please god and you are his enemy. so is paul contradicting himself because in 7:14 he says he is carnal. no he is not because he started off in verse 1 saying i speak to them that know the law. Gods word never contradicts itself. It is kind of wierd that peter said in 2nd peter 3:15-17 that pauls writing were kind of hard to understand and he said people who were unstable and unlearned would twist them as well as other scriptures to thier own destruction. Take alook at romans 3:4-8 Paul says does our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God. what shall we say is God unrighteous who taketh vengence. God forbid.how shall GOD judge the world. That is what i like to ask all of these church goers. how will god judge the world if every one is a sinner. will he let some go to heaven and some go to hell. when jesus returns he is not going to give us a new nature. we will only get a new body. so if you have not put off that old man like paul talks about and crucified the flesh and killed it and buried it in baptism you will not make it to heaven. romans 6:4-6) once your saved the flesh is dead and you dont live according to flesh but according to the spirit if you have the spirit.if you live after the flesh you will surely die. romans 8:8-13</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jtc, post: 9176, member: 479"] read romans 7 what is the first thing paul says for i speak to them that know th law and in verse 14 he reiterates he is refferring to some one under the law and thats why he says in verse 24 who will save him from this condition. he gives the answer that jesus christ can save him . if he were saying this is his present tense he would be tottally contradicting chapters 6 and 8. read romans 6:1 shall we continue in sin that grace may abound god forbid that is some very strong language. read the whole chapter. we are dead to sin if we did die to ourselves and raised from the dead in christ. read chapter 8 concerning romans 7:14.It says in verses 8:6-14 It says if you are carnal you can not please god and you are his enemy. so is paul contradicting himself because in 7:14 he says he is carnal. no he is not because he started off in verse 1 saying i speak to them that know the law. Gods word never contradicts itself. It is kind of wierd that peter said in 2nd peter 3:15-17 that pauls writing were kind of hard to understand and he said people who were unstable and unlearned would twist them as well as other scriptures to thier own destruction. Take alook at romans 3:4-8 Paul says does our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God. what shall we say is God unrighteous who taketh vengence. God forbid.how shall GOD judge the world. That is what i like to ask all of these church goers. how will god judge the world if every one is a sinner. will he let some go to heaven and some go to hell. when jesus returns he is not going to give us a new nature. we will only get a new body. so if you have not put off that old man like paul talks about and crucified the flesh and killed it and buried it in baptism you will not make it to heaven. romans 6:4-6) once your saved the flesh is dead and you dont live according to flesh but according to the spirit if you have the spirit.if you live after the flesh you will surely die. romans 8:8-13 [/QUOTE]
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