What is a soul?

[statrei]

You don't think Paul was inspired by God to write what he did?

Stormy, I know there are people out there that believe Paul is/was the antichrist....please tell me you're not one of those people.

It may help to understand what Inspiration is. If Inspiration worked the way most people seem to think it does then Paul would never say "I know in part." But he understood that he was limited in his understanding by his culture and background. We alll are inspired because this is the only way that the divine communicates with the human. It is not a magic wand but an open door.

 

[statrei]

I respect your opinion but I'll have to disagree. I don't think science or any other new development has made us understand God any more than Paul did. Paul had the great fortune of walking along side Christ, nothing any of us today can claim (unless spiritually of course).

Paul never walked alongside Christ because He never met the Christ. His claims are identical to ours.

 

[PaleHorse]

Paul never walked alongside Christ because He never met the Christ. His claims are identical to ours.

No debates please. You may ask the other poster to debate this topic in a debate area of the site, but that debate cannot take place here.

Thank you,

 

[StormyOne]

Could someone tell me the difference between "debating" and asking questions, and getting answers? Cause I have yet to see a debate here... I have seen some exchanges in ideas, but IMO no debate... so someone please help me understand the difference....

 

[PaleHorse]

Could someone tell me the difference between "debating" and asking questions, and getting answers? Cause I have yet to see a debate here... I have seen some exchanges in ideas, but IMO no debate... so someone please help me understand the difference....

Sure, happy to help clarify:
de·bate javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?debate01.wav=debate')
Pronunciation: di-'bAt, dE-
Function: noun
: a contention by words or arguments: as a : the formal discussion of a motion before a deliberative body according to the rules of parliamentary procedure b : a regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides

Simply and operatively stated, this means that you may ask any question you wish in this forum, and once that question is answered the discussion is essencially over. If you disagree with any part of the answer then you can invite the responder to debate it in a debate area of the CF site - an area such as "Unorthodox Theology".

A fuller explanation is given by rnmomof7 here.

 

[statrei]

No debates please. You may ask the other poster to debate this topic in a debate area of the site, but that debate cannot take place here.

Thank you,

I did not see a Mod hat. Please clarify.

IAE, the statement only corrected an obvious error. This was necessary the unwary should be led astray. It would only turn into a debate if someone were to insist on defending the misinformation.

 

[PaleHorse]

I did not see a Mod hat. Please clarify.

Your clarification can be found by following the link I provided above.

IAE, the statement only corrected an obvious error. This was necessary the unwary should be led astray. It would only turn into a debate if someone were to insist on defending the misinformation.

If you believe this or any statements are in error you must take that discussion to a debate area if you do not have an Adventist icon.

 

[StormyOne]

Sure, happy to help clarify:
de·bate
Pronunciation: di-'bAt, dE-
Function: noun
: a contention by words or arguments: as a : the formal discussion of a motion before a deliberative body according to the rules of parliamentary procedure b : a regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides

Simply and operatively stated, this means that you may ask any question you wish in this forum, and once that question is answered the discussion is essencially over. If you disagree with any part of the answer then you can invite the responder to debate it in a debate area of the CF site - an area such as "Unorthodox Theology".

A fuller explanation is given by rnmomof7 here.

Thanks for the link.... I read that... I have stated several times that I am adventist... can you provide the link that says if I am not displaying the adventist ICON I cannot debate?

 

[PaleHorse]

Thanks for the link.... I read that... I have stated several times that I am adventist... can you provide the link that says if I am not displaying the adventist ICON I cannot debate?

Sure, that's a fair request. It can be found here, post #34.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Stormy, would you be interested in going to the debate area with me? I agree with the rules of this forum and I really don't want this thread getting too much more off topic. It went from what a soul is to Moses to Paul.

If you start a thread I'll come. I'm a nanny and one of my little ones is at the doctor with his mom and the other one is being a happy little soul watching me make faces as I type, so I may actually have some time.

 

[statrei]

If you believe this or any statements are in error you must take that discussion to a debate area if you do not have an Adventist icon.

You should be careful not to take to yourself authority you do not have. The discussion, which is what it has been to this point, was proceeding civilly until this interjection. Let us consider this side trip ended and return to the discussion.

 

[PaleHorse]

You should be careful not to take to yourself authority you do not have. The discussion, which is what it has been to this point, was proceeding civilly until this interjection. Let us consider this side trip ended and return to the discussion.

No, I need no authority to point out the established rules of the forum. Don't confuse authority with duty.
It is irrelevant how you define discussion or if you preceive it was proceeding in a civil manner or not, the rules are plain and establish what constitutes a discussion versus a debate/argument.
All I ask is observance of the rules that we all must follow.

 

[SassySDA]

No, I need no authority to point out the established rules of the forum. Don't confuse authority with duty.
It is irrelevant how you define discussion or if you preceive it was proceeding in a civil manner or not, the rules are plain and establish what constitutes a discussion versus a debate/argument.
All I ask is observance of the rules that we all must follow.

I'm glad I put him on my ignore list...he's been back, how long? And the same old, same old is starting already.

 

[statrei]

I'm glad I put him on my ignore list...he's been back, how long? And the same old, same old is starting already.

It is indeed wonderful how the Christian spirit impels us to consider as dead those with whom we disagree and pronounce it to the entire world. For what purpose? Certainly, not to advance the kingdom of Heaven.

 

[SassySDA]

Your clarification can be found by following the link I provided above.


If you believe this or any statements are in error you must take that discussion to a debate area if you do not have an Adventist icon.

For what it's worth, PaleHorse, and I would NEVER profess that I have the right to tell you what to do or sway you in any way, but I ignored both of them. I don't see their posts, and I can receive no pm's from them. This will just go around and around in a circle, as long as they have your attention.

I've known too many people that love to do what they are engaging in, and I can tell you from experience, that it will not stop. Statrei was banned for a period of time, and what has transpired from the moment he came back? Nada different then before that I can see.

As for Stormy's request to see the icon rule? A moderator stated it for him in one of the threads in here, just the other day. I guess the moderators don't know the rules either. He doesn't seem to understand that he can say he's ANYONE, and we would have no way to know the difference. He can sport the SDA Icon all he wants, I personally don't believe he is a member of the church, and I could be 1000% wrong, it's just a feeling I get. I don't understand WHY a member of the Seventh-day Adventist church would not WANT the icon by their name, let alone argue about it, and defy rules to keep it away from their name.

I admire your intelligence so much, and I enjoy the studies that you post here for us to look at and study for ourselves, look up the scripture, and take apart piece by piece if we need to, to help us learn...your time, my dear friend, is better spent on pursuits such as those.

One day, I am hoping you will be a moderator here, simply for the many fine qualities you have to bring to the table. IF, you would even accept a request to be one. I, myself, would be honored if you would.

 

[statrei]

I admire your intelligence so much, and I enjoy the studies that you post here for us to look at and study for ourselves, look up the scripture, and take apart piece by piece if we need to, to help us learn...your time, my dear friend, is better spent on pursuits such as those.

Given that she considers me as one dead, I may never know if what she means by the highlighted is the same that I and the majority of English speakers mean.

 

[statrei]

Statrei was banned for a period of time,

Did you ban me?

 

[NeverADullMoment]

How do you ignore someone?

 

[statrei]

How do you ignore someone?

First, you must decide they will never be worthy of your valuable Christian time. Just think of how much more Jesus could have achieved if He had an ignore button.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Even Christ had to dust off His feet sometimes. Some people argue for the sake of arguing and take discussions way off topic every chance they get...it's called distraction.

I'd like to see this thread get back on track, please.