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But as soon as He attempts to answer questions about the purpose and meaning of life, He becomes religious ... correct?
And if so, what is the name of this particular religion?
Science adapts to new evidence. Science welcomes questions and skepticism. Religion, when it involves the worship of gods, doesnt adapt too well and is not too welcoming to skepticism.
Sure, personal revelation is a tad hard to pin down with any evidence though. Scientific investigation produces empirical evidence, which another scientist can test, with further investigation. Faith beliefs, cant be independently verified and is why we have so many different faith beliefs, even within one religion. Could be why it is called faith and could explain, why certain beliefs dont welcome skepticism all too well, in an effort to protect the belief. Comparing science and how it works to religion, involves many clear differences.Science proceeds by investigation, religion by revelation. Each to its proper methodology.
Sure, personal revelation is a tad hard to pin down with any evidence though.
Belief in the Bible is an item of religious faith. Those who are not Christian or Jewish are not going to care that the Bible says Moses parted the Red Sea.The Bible says God parted the Red Sea.
I suppose it depends on your definition of religion.Oh puhleeze
No it doesn't. You don't get to personally define words. You have to use the common definition of words in the English language.I suppose it depends on your definition of religion.
Is Christianity a religion?No it doesn't. You don't get to personally define words. You have to use the common definition of words in the English language.
Is Christianity a religion?
Just as weight occurs when gravity is resisted, religion occurs when the Bible is resisted.
You have deliberately ignored the rest of that post.
Religion is belief in an infallible supreme deity practiced from varied understandings (e.g. Panentheist, polytheist, monotheist etc)
As noted earlier, not all religions are theistic; so defining religion theistically is problematic and renders a number of religious traditions and practices non-religious even though they are; certain forms of Buddhism, or Taoism for example. There are even atheistic schools of Hinduism. I think the following definition works better as a more broad statement:
"A particular system of faith and worship."
This is the 4th definition given by the Oxford English Dictionary (religion, n. : Oxford English Dictionary)
I would even suggest a further modification, rather than "faith" perhaps use "belief" and rather than "worship" use the word "practice"
"A particular system of beliefs and practices" Would be, I'd think, the best definition of "religion" that covers the most bases.
-CryptoLutheran
Dear atheists here, I was having very enjoyable attempts to get to exchange ideas with you on how to prove God exists.
Well, I am leaving that thread now: because atheists there are not anymore receptive to talk on how to prove God exists - from their part, of course, how to disprove God exists.
I am starting a new thread, "What is a religion."
Again, I am into getting atheists to talk with me.
Here is the background of my interest now on what is a religion, read the Annex below.
There you will get to know what I have for a definition of religion.
Please contribute your comments, and of course, tell me what is your idea of religion.
See you guys tomorrow, again.
Annex
What Is Your Religion?
Yesterday at 3:49 AM #5 Pachomius wrote:
Well, that is very interesting to me, What is your religion?
So, just tell me if you all here notice that I am in any ways and means into any infraction of the rules, regulations, etc. of this board and generally of CF.
Here goes, my first contribution to the conversation here.
First and foremost, I like us all to work as to concur on what is religion.
Here is my concept of what is religion:
Religion is the belief in a superior being or beings resulting in affections and actions intended by the believer to influence the superior being or beings to help him the believer in everything in which he the believer is in need of help.
Now, what is my religion?
My religion is the Christian faith, as proclaimed in The Apostles’ Creed; here is my memory of The Christians’ Apostles’ Creed:
“I believe in God the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only begotten son, born of the virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried.
He descended into hell, the third day He rose again from the dead, He ascended unto heaven seated at the right hand of God, the Father almighty.
From thence He shall come back to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sin, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting.”
There, that is my religion, I could have gotten some words not so correctly written by me from memory.
I can recite also the No. 1 prayer of Christians, The Lord’s Prayer which is the Our Father, here goes, the Our Father:
“Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name.
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not unto temptation, but deliver us from evil.
[For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever and ever. Amen.]
There that is my from memory the recitation of the No. 1 prayer of Christians.
Shall I now go into the recitation of The Ten Commandments, the list of moral rules Christians must live by, otherwise they will not ever get to heaven, but will land in hell when they die?
What about you guys, fellow Christians, what is your concept of religion?
[End of Annex]
That's their problem.
The Bible says God parted the Red Sea.
If science is putting a gag rule on that, then I submit science is a religion.
Simply being nice to people would be a religion by your definition, since, generally, nice people practice such behavior due to the belief that it is good.
So while the belief in a deity is not necessary for a belief system to qualify as a religion, belief in the supernatural is universal to all religions (which, incidentally, is what makes every single religion literally unreasonable by definition) and so we can define religion as "A particular system of supernatural beliefs and structured practices."
Science proceeds by investigation, religion by revelation. Each to its proper methodology.
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