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What is a heretic?

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Victrixa

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Hello my dear brothers and sisters in Christ! :wave:

I would like to know what your definition of a heretic is, whether you're Catholic or Orthodox or Lutheran or Baptist or Pentecostal or Methodist, etc. Whatever church affiliation or denomination you come from!

What is a heretic?

Waiting for interesting answers!

Please, oh please, do not debate! I just want answers from each and everyone of you.

Yours in Christ,

Caroline
 

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Someone who teaches against Scripture. Everyone is a heretic to someone. Satan has put so many divisions in the church since he can not destroy it, that we all think some other groups have heretical teachings. That's why deep study of Scirpture is important, without letting other writings affect your theology.
 
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This was interesting to me, because I obviously have my view as a Catholic about what a heretic is, but this is what the dictionary has to say:

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A person who holds controversial opinions, especially one who publicly dissents from the officially accepted dogma of the Roman Catholic Church.
 
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Interesting. That is in fact the definition from dictionary.com.

Here are alternate definitions from
Webster's:
Heretic
HER'ETIC, n.

1. A person under any religion, but particularly the christian, who holds and teaches opinions repugnant to the established faith, or that which is made the standard of orthodoxy. In strictness, among christians, a person who holds and avows religious opinions contrary to the doctrines of Scripture, the only rule of faith and practice.

2. Any one who maintains erroneous opinions.

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Heretic; Heretical
her´e-tik, her´ē̇-tik, hē̇-ret´i-kal (αἱρετικός, hairetikós): Used in Titus_3:10, must be interpreted according to the sense in which Paul employs the word "heresy" (1Co_11:19; Gal_5:20) for "parties" or "factions." According to this, the Scriptural meaning of the word is no more than "a factious man" (American Standard Revised Version), an agitator who creates divisions and makes parties. Weizsäcker translates it into German ein Sektierer, "a sectarist." The nature of the offense is described in other words in 2Th_2:6, 2Th_2:11.

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Heretical
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akin to the above, primarily denotes "capable of choosing" (haireomai); hence, "causing division by a party spirit, factious,"
Titus_3:10, RV, "heretical."

 
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clskinner said:
This was interesting to me, because I obviously have my view as a Catholic about what a heretic is, but this is what the dictionary has to say:

her·e·tic (h
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A person who holds controversial opinions, especially one who publicly dissents from the officially accepted dogma of the Roman Catholic Church.

Where did definition that come from?------- that's odd. :scratch: Thats, really ODD... :scratch: :scratch:
oh well, here's Bill Gates opinion. :eek:
heretic
her·e·tic [hérr&#601;tik]
n
1. religion somebody who holds unorthodox religious belief: somebody who holds or adheres to an opinion or belief that contradicts established religious teaching, especially one that is officially condemned by religious authorities
2. somebody with unconventional beliefs: somebody whose opinions, beliefs, or theories in any field are considered by others in that field to be extremely unconventional or unorthodox

Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2003. © 1993-2002 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.​

I'd say one who does not believe in the death,burial and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ who is the only begotten Son of the Father.... Who shed his blood for the forgiveness of sins one time for all mankind... and in believing on Him we can have everlasting life.... could be considered a heretic by all.

or maybe i should simply say: everyone who doesn't believe me is a heretic... ;)
 
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We are all heretics according to who you talk to.
I cannot count the times I have been called one.
I laugh at them because:
1. We are all quite helpless to change what we believe by our own act of will. You believe what God has revealed to you.
2. The people who go around calling people heretics are usually so eat up with heresy themselves that who really cares what they think? James 3:1 is waiting to catch up with them. These are the best examples of what Jesus referred to "scribes and pharasees" that we have today.
3. These same folks who busy themselves calling you a heretic usually have no idea that there is a difference between "believing" something and "thinking" something. There is a difference between "doctrine" and "faith." Doctrine you can fiddle with, change, rewrite until it sounds corrrect. Faith is not so. Faith is the result of revelation from God, and is really in large part out of your hands.

Just be merciful with your brothers and sisters, keeping in mind that we are all doing the best we can to hold to the truth. You are not perfect no matter how much you think you are. Let the Lord deal with you. It is His business and it is between you and Him.

Regardless of what anyone says, you really have no choice but to follow your heart and what God has shown you. Do not let anyone steal your joy and peace just because they think it is their personal calling to set everyone straight.
You just have to let them do their thing and move on. God will deal with them eventually. I just pray they escape their mindset before it is too late!
 
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@@Paul@@ said:
I'd say one who does not believe in the death,burial and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ who is the only begotten Son of the Father.... Who shed his blood for the forgiveness of sins one time for all mankind... and in believing on Him we can have everlasting life.... could be considered a heretic by all.

A Buddhist would probably not believe these things, but yet would not be considered a heretic.
 
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daveleau said:
Interesting. That is in fact the definition from dictionary.com.

Here are alternate definitions from
Webster's:
Heretic
HER'ETIC, n.

1. A person under any religion, but particularly the christian, who holds and teaches opinions repugnant to the established faith, or that which is made the standard of orthodoxy. In strictness, among christians, a person who holds and avows religious opinions contrary to the doctrines of Scripture, the only rule of faith and practice.

2. Any one who maintains erroneous opinions.


(emphasis added by me)

I think it's important to distinguish a heretic from anyone who errs in his or her theological opinions. We are all subject to error. I have changed my mind about many things, which must mean I have erred somewhere along the line.

Do I "maintain erroneous opinions?" I probably do at any given time.

I think if we read church history, we will see that no one who maintains humility that they might be in error is labeled as a heretic. This would mean there is something essential left out of the definitions posted above.
 
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thereselittleflower said:
Paul, do a google search with the key words

definition heretic

It is the first definition in hyperdictionary.com

Peace in Him!
Well, i think anyone who goes against the hyper-dispensational/non-denominational/newly reformed baptist church of the 7th degree should be considered a heretic. :)


But i like the first definition in the google search. I think everyone should read it..

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Heresy
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Heresy said:
The use of the term is far less common today than it was during the Middle Ages, when the Church's power was at its height and heresy was a punishable offense.
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The word "heresy" comes from the Greek &#945;&#953;&#961;&#949;&#963;&#953;&#962;, hairesis (from &#945;&#953;&#961;&#949;&#959;&#956;&#945;&#953;, haireomai, "choose"), which means either a choice of beliefs or a faction of dissident believers.
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The Catholic Church does not consider modern Protestantism to be a heresy, per se, but the individuals who were involved in its rise and who directly opposed the Church's teachings on points of doctrine were declared heretics by the Church. Once the Protestants formally renounced the Church of Rome, they became schismatics rather than heretics.

Some of the doctrines of Protestantism that the Catholic Church considers heretical are the belief that the Bible is the only source and rule of faith ("sola scriptura"), that faith alone can lead to salvation ("sola fide") and that there is a universal priesthood of believers.

Is it true that by the RCC own definition "Protestantism" is not schismatical rather than heretical?
 
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I think 'heretic' refers to anyone who doesn't mesh with the current pop theologies going on the time. I think one must be clear to distinguish 'heretic' from 'blaphemer' because they are, of course, very different.
There is much 'pop' theology today. The entire millennial/dispensational lens to Revelation is one of them. In the 80s, Frank Perretti's views on demons and angels created a similar lens. These lenses get crafted by 'pop' theologians/church members for better or for worse and everyone buys into them because people cannot think for themselves. Sometimes these lenses are positive, as in the case of Rick Warren's Purpose Driven Life and sometimes they are negative, as in the case of the entire "Left Behind" craze.

Anyways, a heretic, like me, is one who refuses to fit the popular mold of what a "Christian" must look like. Heretics are Christians, but they sometimes look differently, act differently, think differently and believe differently than "conventional wisdom". Examples of theological heretics would include people who do not let the "church" or pop Christianity give them a list of dogmatics to believe in. Some of this is for better, and some of it is for worse; but such may be:

--those who do not think the Bible is inerrant, those who believe in evolution, those who are pro choice, those who are pro gay, those who do not take miracles at face value, those who no longer can believe in some images of god, the irreligious, femminists, liberation theologies, preterists, etc. etc.

But, like I said, blasphemy is different. Heresy is an honest thing, people really do believe certain things, they really do call Jesus "Lord" and they really do believe in their hearts that God raised him (the "Biblical" formula for salvation). Some heretics may be saved, some may not be; but in either case it is not their 'heretical' nature that has influenced salvation.

However, blasphemy, like apostasy, has to do with a knowing, renuncianciation and turning away from KNOWN truth. In other words, someone really does believe that Jesus was resurrected, but they oppose it, they let the satan work against them inside them. This, I think, is what really messes people up. Finally, the former (heresy) usually refers to the minors in the faith while the later (blasphemy) tends to deal with the latter (such as the divinity of Christ, the historical resurrection, atonement and the forgiveness of sins).

There is a big difference between saying Christianity is true and not exactly agreeing with others on what that means and on knowing Christianity is, at least in some way, true and then saying it isn't.

Hope it helps.
PS, I am a member of the ELCA; Evangelical Lutheran (or Liberal) Church of America.
 
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@@Paul@@ said:
Well, i think anyone who goes against the hyper-dispensational/non-denominational/newly reformed baptist church of the 7th degree should be considered a heretic. :)


But i like the first definition in the google search. I think everyone should read it..

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Heresy


Is it true that by the RCC own definition "Protestantism" is not schismatical rather than heretical?
Whu don't you come and ask that question in OBOB? :)


Peace in Him!
 
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daveleau said:
Someone who teaches against Scripture. Everyone is a heretic to someone. Satan has put so many divisions in the church since he can not destroy it, that we all think some other groups have heretical teachings. That's why deep study of Scirpture is important, without letting other writings affect your theology.
AMEN, brother!
As per clskinner, or atleast the quote from dictionary.com. I AM a heretic !!!! LOLOL...so not true, but I guess it depends on context, never about His word!
DD
 
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