What if?

[Spunkn]

Food for thought. God is not fair.

If He was, then we'd all be getting the punishment that was due to us, and Christ wouldn't have taken it for us.

Would we rather have a merciful God or one who is fair?

God is just, so anything He does is also just. In my opinion, I don't think He would call someone to be single, whom He had given a great desire to be married. That's just my opinion though.

If I was called to be single, then I think my desire to serve God fully with all my time would outweigh any desire I had to get married.

 

[Toro]

It has nothing to do with over analysis, you made the statement that God gave us marriage because most people are not "wired" to be celibate.

It has nothing to do with semantics, such a statement is incorrect no matter how you look at it.

Um considering that "it is better for man to remain single" is a point that seems to support the fact that God made marriage for those of us who could NOT resist temptation for life. YES there IS more to it than simply sex and I stated that, so you take what I said as you choose to.

It was my way of saying something without typing a long drawn out sentence.

 

[ImperatorWall]

Food for thought. God is not fair.

If He was, then we'd all be getting the punishment that was due to us, and Christ wouldn't have taken it for us.

Would we rather have a merciful God or one who is fair?

God is just, so anything He does is also just. In my opinion, I don't think He would call someone to be single, whom He had given a great desire to be married. That's just my opinion though.

If I was called to be single, then I think my desire to serve God fully with all my time would outweigh any desire I had to get married.

God is indeed fair.

You provided the reason in your post.

God is fair, so anything he does is also fair.

 

[Strider1002]

God is just, so anything He does is also just. In my opinion, I don't think He would call someone to be single, whom He had given a great desire to be married. That's just my opinion though.

A lot of people seem to think of marriage as something everyone is just supposed to do, unless there's something wrong with you. Maybe there are people who look around and see couples everywhere and think "I want to be married too!" But if they got married, they may find that they're not built for it. Too selfish, perhaps, or unable to remain faithful, or too controlling, or something like that.

They may be better off remaining single, but they may not know it. God knows it, though.

 

[Paulie079]

I don't know that I would completely agree with that.

I don't know that I would either I was sort of thinking out loud.

 

[Spunkn]

A lot of people seem to think of marriage as something everyone is just supposed to do, unless there's something wrong with you. Maybe there are people who look around and see couples everywhere and think "I want to be married too!" But if they got married, they may find that they're not built for it. Too selfish, perhaps, or unable to remain faithful, or too controlling, or something like that.

They may be better off remaining single, but they may not know it. God knows it, though.

It's definately possible. There's a lot of things we convince ourselves that we -need- in order to be like everyone else. Just because the world has convinced us that we need it in order to be happy.

 

[ImperatorWall]

A lot of people seem to think of marriage as something everyone is just supposed to do, unless there's something wrong with you. Maybe there are people who look around and see couples everywhere and think "I want to be married too!" But if they got married, they may find that they're not built for it. Too selfish, perhaps, or unable to remain faithful, or too controlling, or something like that.

They may be better off remaining single, but they may not know it. God knows it, though.

Marriage is not the endgame. Marriage is the start of a process that, if undertaken Biblically, will mold two people further into the image of Christ as they learn how to serve one another.

A concept of being "built" for marriage makes no sense to me. I don't see many men in the Bible, even the patriarchs of Israel, that I would say were "built" for marriage.

 

[Spunkn]

God is indeed fair.

You provided the reason in your post.

God is fair, so anything he does is also fair.

Was it fair for Jesus to die for -our- sins?

I'm only making the point, that if God were truly fair in everything. Then we all would be experiencing the punishment we deserved when we sinned against God. But since God is merciful, He held back that punishment, and sent Jesus to take our place.

People always say "well that isn't fair! Why does someone else get this, and that, and why does God bless those people with those gifts but not me?"

God gives us each unique gifts, circumstances, and trials in life. To some He gives more, and to some He gives less, but each are held accountable for what they are given.

Be glad that God is not "fair" when it comes to dealing with our sin.

 

[SnowyMacie]

A lot of people seem to think of marriage as something everyone is just supposed to do, unless there's something wrong with you. Maybe there are people who look around and see couples everywhere and think "I want to be married too!" But if they got married, they may find that they're not built for it. Too selfish, perhaps, or unable to remain faithful, or too controlling, or something like that.

They may be better off remaining single, but they may not know it. God knows it, though.

That's a good point. My friend was talking about this on Wednesday. It should be a red flag if you can't decide on a date when you get engaged. Yes, stuff can happen that can cause delay or disagree about time of year, but if you aren't ready to be married, you shouldn't be getting married.

 

[Strider1002]

Marriage is not the endgame. Marriage is the start of a process that, if undertaken Biblically, will mold two people further into the image of Christ as they learn how to serve one another.

A concept of being "built" for marriage makes no sense to me. I don't see many men in the Bible, even the patriarchs of Israel, that I would say were "built" for marriage.

I know it's not the endgame... but a lot of people these days don't think, they just do what they think they're supposed to do. And "getting married and raising" a family is usually one of those things.

Anyway, "built" is just a word I chose. Some people can function well as a spouse, some cannot. It may not be apparent until they try it.

 

[wannaberocker]

Blind post: People who suffer from Depression in general and people who have moments of loneliness and a deep desire to be with a partner and share romantic love are different. Most people who suffer from depression may include their lack of a relationship as just another reason for their depression. But, its not the only reason. So lets not combine the two into one and suggest "well they should be happy in Christ".

Secondly, the author of relationship's and partnership is God. As God made man he saw the need for a partner. Adam had no concept of a partner, yet God saw that Adam needed Eve. So when a man or woman today desires romantic love and wants a partner, it is something that began with God seeing that man needs a partner. It shouldn't be brushed aside and said "well find your happiness in Christ" when in ways Christ is the source of that desire and Love.

Its also true that such a desire may never be fulfilled for some. Yet, for the faithful there is always hope and prayer. As God tells us that ask and you shall receive, well then why do we not continue to ask until the desire is fulfilled?

 

[jess9450]

Was it fair for Jesus to die for -our- sins?

I'm only making the point, that if God were truly fair in everything. Then we all would be experiencing the punishment we deserved when we sinned against God. But since God is merciful, He held back that punishment, and sent Jesus to take our place.

People always say "well that isn't fair! Why does someone else get this, and that, and why does God bless those people with those gifts but not me?"

God gives us each unique gifts, circumstances, and trials in life. To some He gives more, and to some He gives less, but each are held accountable for what they are given.

Be glad that God is not "fair" when it comes to dealing with our sin.

I get what you're saying, but it can be really tough sometimes when you feel like "the less" kind of person. This is something I know I personally have to pray about quite often.

 

[prov1810]

The thought of needing someone else to satisfy an emotional or physical craving - well, the problem is the craving, not singleness. This kind of neediness just sets us up for blaming others when they don't give us what we want. This is not love.

The way to have love is to give love - it puts you in a state of loving. There is no other way to know it or have it.

 

[Rhye]

I get what you're saying, but it can be really tough sometimes when you feel like "the less" kind of person. This is something I know I personally have to pray about quite often.

Sometimes when you focus on that so much you miss things that are happening right in front of you.
I know I do that!

 

[Rhye]

=(

 

[Spunkn]

Certainly, it was fair for Jesus to bear the wrath of God on the cross. What was unfair about it?

Perhaps you need a review of terms.

Here is how Merriam Webster defines "fair" in the context we are using it.

a : marked by impartiality and honesty : free from self-interest, prejudice, or favoritism <a very fair person to do business with>
b (1) : conforming with the established rules : allowed (2) : consonant with merit or importance : due <a fair share>
c : open to legitimate pursuit, attack, or ridicule <fair game>

a may be a stretch, I definitely think b applies here, and I think we can both agree that c is not what we are discussing.

So please, explain to me how Jesus' sacrifice, and by proxy, God, is unfair.

I would say A. Impartiality, because God created us, He cared about us. If He was impartial than why would He send His son to die for us. Also He created us for His glory. Favoritism, we are considered children of God, placed above the angels when we are saved. I would say that's a form of favoritism.

 

[Spunkn]

I get what you're saying, but it can be really tough sometimes when you feel like "the less" kind of person. This is something I know I personally have to pray about quite often.

And it's okay to struggle with that, I think we all do. That doesn't mean God thinks any less of you

It means you are normal, like the rest of us

 

[crishmael]

To answer the questions, I don't think a life of singleness would affect my faith much. I've been single for a long while, and a lack of a relationship hasn't made me give God the side eye. I do have thoughts about how I would like to have a wife and children, but my life's worth isn't tied up in whether I get married.

 

[Miss Spaulding]

Um...alrighty then.

 

[Toro]

And it's okay to struggle with that, I think we all do. That doesn't mean God thinks any less of you

It means you are normal, like the rest of us

Did, did Spunkn just call me normal?

You mean it Spunkn I am normal?



No more Toro the freak, Toro the lame....

Toro the normal.

I always dreamed this day would come.

Im being weird again arent I?

Back to the drawing board.