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what if i'm wanting to think these things? i don't know anymore right now i just feel numb

Feeling numb is something many of us experience regarding our OCD thoughts.
It goes like this. You've been obsessing over an intrusive spike for awhile and experiencing intense anxiety about it. Then one day the thought pops into your head and you don't have the usual stab of anxiety that you had before. Then you think - "what does that mean?" Then the next OCD "what if" takes center stage. "What if this means that I really want to think these thoughts, if I didn't want to think them I wouldn't feel this numbness about them. Oh No! If I am wanting to think them that that might mean that I really am agreeing with them which might mean that I'm actually doomed." Then the compulsive activity starts. "I have to, I feel overwhelmingly compelled to check, reassure myself or get proof that I'm not really doomed, that I'm not really wanting these thoughts." Then the anxiety peaks all the more as all of this attending to the "what if" makes it loom large and threatening because attending to it gives a false signal to the brain that the thought is extremely urgent and has validity.
So if any of this sounds familiar then it's time to put the stamp of OCD/invalid on this "what if".
Praying for you,
Mitzi
 
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i just want it to go away forever. i wished this never happened to me. and you are right the anxiety wasn't there when i thought the thoughts. then i started thinking well the anxiety isn't there so i must want these thoughts. why does there have to be an unpardonable sin? please somebody tell me why
 
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i just want it to go away forever. i wished this never happened to me. and you are right the anxiety wasn't there when i thought the thoughts. then i started thinking well the anxiety isn't there so i must want these thoughts. why does there have to be an unpardonable sin? please somebody tell me why

I don't know, but I can assure you that if you overcome (and I hope you do,) the fear about unpardonable sin, that if it's OCD, it will latch onto something else. That's why we have to target the OCD and not the specific issue so much. I know that's hard with OCD struggles.
 
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God4ever, have you ever done a bible study on the unpardonable sin?
a study that was led by God Himself. You need to overcome these fears.

When I struggled with the unpardonable Sin it went away and didnt bother me anymore when I went I realized by scriptures and what it really says in context it isnt even possible for me to commit it.

This isnt something you can just simply brush off, it will come back. You need to once and for all stand against this and the only weapon is Gods Word.

One day you need to take a few deep breathes and pray, tell God that you seek to know the truth. The real truth behind this unpardonable Sin that haunts you and alot of other people in this forum.

And read up on it. God will reveal the truth to you. He doesnt want to keep it from you or anyone else.

Seek the wisdom of God:

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let Him ask in Faith, Nothing wavering.For He that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed, for let not that man think he shall recieve anything of the LORD.
James 1:5-7


You want to be free from this, than I urge to to do this. Your OCD will no longer latch itself onto this and you will be free. Do you not want this?
Than you need to take it to God:hug: But you need to ask in Faith.

If you want help im here for you.

you asked:

why does there have to be an unpardonable sin? please somebody tell me why

The answer is simple and not something we all want to accept. Because there are those in this world that choose evil over good. People decide in the end they dont want Jesus. and Jesus is the only way.

The question you need to ask yourself is:

What is the unpardonable Sin? What is it according to Gods Word not accodring to my fears?

you can overcome it, I know you can:)
 
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yea it's just that i wish there was no such thing. thanks for your support.

I wish noone rejected Christ either. It doesnt mean you have
to tho;)

And you made it perfectly clear that you dont
 
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no i don't reject him by mouth but with thoughts

God is more interested in your heart rather than your mouth and thoughts.

You may have bad thoughts but they are controled by the spirit of fear.

God can clearly see that you dont reject Him. If you did you wouldnt even care.

For example If I rejected my love for you. I wouldnt even be here helping you. When you reject something you want no part of it. You clearly want a part of God. That is evident to God.

If you didnt care about God I guarentee you that your OCD would latch onto something else. Thats what it does. It holds onto whats most important to you. and thats God.
 
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Hi god4ever, I too am struggling with this stuff. I have been in a cycle for several months, afraid it will never go away. My question to you and anyone else who reads this is what kind of thoughts are you having. The usual response is blasphemous thoughts about the HS, but my thoughts don't usually center around that. I have battled thoughts lately off just not wanting anything to do with God or Jesus. Someone will talk about spiritual things or pray and I get a repulsive feeling it seems and it terrifies me. I feel as though my thoughts are those of an unbeliever or even atheists. I can't seem to get a handle on them or make them go away. I have asked God to change my heart to think the way it should and feel the way it should but it doesn't seem to do any good. I know Jesus is our only hope and we are doomed without him but I have lost my desire for him it seems. Kind of a numb feeling like you mentioned. Does anyone have these exact feelings. Or are mine unique.

Worried too

James
 
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