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Struggles by Non-Christians
What if you "know" that god does not exist
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<blockquote data-quote="zephcom" data-source="post: 71923949" data-attributes="member: 400000"><p>Interesting. Much of your information does not correspond with information that I have gathered. First of all, it is not really settled that we need a single God. While this, admittedly, gets a bit far fetched it may be entirely possible that universes are nothing more than grade school science projects for beings who we would naturally refer to as 'God'. Our universe -could- be laying in the closet of a God-child who has already forgotten he made the project for school. Of course that is far fetched, but the idea of multiple Gods has a certain charm. </p><p></p><p>And we would not necessary be expected to limit a search for the correct religion to just major religions. It could well be that a minor or obscure religion is the 'true' religion.</p><p></p><p>But most interesting to me is your comments about the NT. -Parts- of the NT date relatively early after Jesus walked the earth. The seven books most scholars will attribute to Paul would, by the fact of Paul's death in 60 AD, be dated before then but after he converted in approximately 45 AD. </p><p></p><p>Most likely all the rest of the N.T. is usually dated in the last half of the First Century with the possibility that some date even into the first part of the Second Century (Revelation, for example). If Jesus died in 33 AD, that gives us ten years after Jesus lived as the earliest possible date for any book in the N.T. and over seventy years for the last book. In an age where there were no recording devices, and extremely likely no one was there taking shorthand while Jesus taught, we have a really difficult time declaring everything in the N.T. is true.</p><p></p><p>And actually, textual criticism indicates HUGE amounts of errors in the N.T. One scholar (Bart Ehrman) says that even though there has never been an accurate count of the amount of variations in the N.T. it is safe to say that there are more variations than there are words in the N.T. It is also correct to say that likely 99 percent of those errors are scribe errors and amount to little consequence. But the remaining one percent is still a rather large amount of errors which -do- amount large consequences. </p><p></p><p>And my final comment is that -if- the Resurrection of Jesus confirms that Jesus was God incarnate, what should one make of Lazarus? God incarnate also?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zephcom, post: 71923949, member: 400000"] Interesting. Much of your information does not correspond with information that I have gathered. First of all, it is not really settled that we need a single God. While this, admittedly, gets a bit far fetched it may be entirely possible that universes are nothing more than grade school science projects for beings who we would naturally refer to as 'God'. Our universe -could- be laying in the closet of a God-child who has already forgotten he made the project for school. Of course that is far fetched, but the idea of multiple Gods has a certain charm. And we would not necessary be expected to limit a search for the correct religion to just major religions. It could well be that a minor or obscure religion is the 'true' religion. But most interesting to me is your comments about the NT. -Parts- of the NT date relatively early after Jesus walked the earth. The seven books most scholars will attribute to Paul would, by the fact of Paul's death in 60 AD, be dated before then but after he converted in approximately 45 AD. Most likely all the rest of the N.T. is usually dated in the last half of the First Century with the possibility that some date even into the first part of the Second Century (Revelation, for example). If Jesus died in 33 AD, that gives us ten years after Jesus lived as the earliest possible date for any book in the N.T. and over seventy years for the last book. In an age where there were no recording devices, and extremely likely no one was there taking shorthand while Jesus taught, we have a really difficult time declaring everything in the N.T. is true. And actually, textual criticism indicates HUGE amounts of errors in the N.T. One scholar (Bart Ehrman) says that even though there has never been an accurate count of the amount of variations in the N.T. it is safe to say that there are more variations than there are words in the N.T. It is also correct to say that likely 99 percent of those errors are scribe errors and amount to little consequence. But the remaining one percent is still a rather large amount of errors which -do- amount large consequences. And my final comment is that -if- the Resurrection of Jesus confirms that Jesus was God incarnate, what should one make of Lazarus? God incarnate also? [/QUOTE]
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