What if you Find a Watch in the Sand?

[TG123]

How about you answer that yourself? Where did everything come from, huh?

Correct, not everything did come from somewhere. I agree with you on that one, at least.

I will be very glad to answer the question, thank you for asking. Everything was created by God, who is eternal and who always existed.

As an atheist, you don't believe in God so please tell me where everything came from. Thanks so much.

 

[durangodawood]

I will be very glad to answer the question, thank you for asking. Everything was created by God, who is eternal and who always existed.

As an atheist, you don't believe in God so please tell me where everything came from. Thanks so much.

Why does being an atheist mean you have to have the explanation for "where everything came from"..???
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[dlamberth]

As an atheist, you don't believe in God so please tell me where everything came from.

From "Life". And Life just "is". There is no need to come from anything. I get that, and I'm not even an atheist.

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[TG123]

Why does being an atheist mean you have to have the explanation for "where everything came from"..???
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Just out of curiousity. You discount the idea that an eternal God created everything, so I am curious to know what is your explanation.

 

[TG123]

From "Life". And Life just "is". There is no need to come from anything. I get that, and I'm not even an atheist.

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Do you believe that every cell comes from a pre-existing cell?

 

[dlamberth]

Do you believe that every cell comes from a pre-existing cell?

Every cell comes from the atoms of star dust.

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[durangodawood]

Just out of curiousity. You discount the idea that an eternal God created everything, so I am curious to know what is your explanation.

I dont discount a creator being totally. It might be true. I have no evidence for it, though.
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As for my explanation: I dont have one. And why should I? I'm hardly in any position to be explaining the origin of the universe itself. I understand that scientists and philosophers have some interesting speculations on the matter. Perhaps one day we will will know.
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[TG123]

Every cell comes from the atoms of star dust.

Atoms of star dust may compose the cells, but this isn't what I asked you.

Do you believe all cells come from pre-existing cells?

 

[Lord Emsworth]

I will be very glad to answer the question, thank you for asking. Everything was created by God, who is eternal and who always existed.

No, that is semantically incorrect. Except, of course, God is nothing. So, where did everything come from?

As an atheist, you don't believe in God so please tell me where everything came from. Thanks so much.

Did you not read the last post:
"Correct, not everything did come from somewhere. I agree with you on that one, at least."

 

[TG123]

I dont discount a creator being totally. It might be true. I have no evidence for it, though.
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As for my explanation: I dont have one. And why should I? I'm hardly in any position to be explaining the origin of the universe itself. I understand that scientists and philosophers have some interesting speculations on the matter. Perhaps one day we will will know.
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Fair enough, you accept there is the possibility of God existing. I think that's a great first step.

The Bible states that God has always existed, and that He created everything.

 

[TG123]

No, that is semantically incorrect. Except, of course, God is nothing. So, where did everything come from?

Why do you say God is nothing?

Did you not read the last post:
"Correct, not everything did come from somewhere. I agree with you on that one, at least."

Sorry, I overlooked that part. How do you believe it is possible that not everything came from somewhere?

 

[Lord Emsworth]

Why do you say God is nothing?

I did not say that. You misread. Maybe I should have bracketed off that sentence.

Sorry, I overlooked that part. How do you believe it is possible that not everything came from somewhere?

Do you feel it is somehow implausible to believe that there is something that just exists?

 

[TG123]

I did not say that. You misread. Maybe I should have bracketed off that sentence.

Sorry, I must be definitely misreading. What are you trying to say here?

Do you feel it is somehow implausible to believe that there is something that just exists?

Something that is not God, yes.

 

[dlamberth]

Atoms of star dust may compose the cells, but this isn't what I asked you.

Do you believe all cells come from pre-existing cells?

I look at stardust first because that's the place I think of to start, not the cells.

From there, I look at the DNA, again not the cells.


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[dlamberth]

Why do you say God is nothing?

What do you say God is?

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[Lord Emsworth]

Sorry, I must be definitely misreading. What are you trying to say here?

The statement "God created everything" can not be correct, except in the case where God is an empty set, i.e. nothing. (Or you have an odd understanding of "everything".)

Something that is not God, yes.

Really, how would you tell the difference? If it talks it is (a) God? No, certainly not, no?

 

[TG123]

I look at stardust first because that's the place I think of to start, not the cells.

From there, I look at the DNA, again not the cells.


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Sure, let's go that way. Where did the stardust come from?

 

[TG123]

The statement "God created everything" can not be correct, except in the case where God is an empty set, i.e. nothing. (Or you have an odd understanding of "everything".)

Or, that God is different from His creation so that He would not be what we would consider a "thing".

Really, how would you tell the difference? If it talks it is (a) God? No, certainly not, no?

Nope. God is all-knowing, all-powerful, blameless, has always existed. These are only some of His amazing attributes. Find me something you are aware of that has all of these attributes.

 

[durangodawood]

Fair enough, you accept there is the possibility of God existing. I think that's a great first step.

The Bible states that God has always existed, and that He created everything.

I still want to know WHY you think I should have an explanation for the "origin of everything".
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Given our current position in the universe, I think its most likely that we humans would NOT have a solid explanation.... AND that any explanation we propose is probably fabricated out of our imagination.
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[TG123]

What do you say God is?

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God is our Creator. Our Saviour. He has always existed. He is all knowing. He is all powerful. He is perfect. He came down among us in the form of flesh to live among us and suffer for us as Jesus Christ. He is love. He has no beginning and no end.

Who or what do you say God is?