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I do not know how and when the OP changed or was it by YOUR BATTOLOGY stumped me ?Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have God’s Son does not have life. 1 John 5:12
We proclaim Christ with all wisdom, so that we may present everyone perfect in Christ.I do not know how and hen the OP changed or was it by YOUR BATTOLOGY stumped me ?
Why not help us all out on Pro 19:1 , Better is the poor that walketh in his integrity , than he that HE that is PREVERSE in his LIPS , and is a FOOL .We proclaim Christ with all wisdom, so that we may present everyone perfect in Christ.
I will have no part in it in what faithless people do;Why not help us all out on Pro 19:1 , Better is n the poor that walketh in his n integrity , than he that HE that is PREVERSE in his LIPS , and is a FOOL . What say you ??
And just as Pro 27:15 says , A continual dropping in a very RAINY day and a CONTENTIOUS Woman are alike .I will have no part in it in what faithless people do;
The perverse of heart shall be far from me;
The faithful will dwell with me; Ps 101:3-6
Whoever is wise will carefully consider the Lord’s faithfulness. Ps 107:43And just as Pro 27:15 says , A continual dropping in a very RAINY day and a CONTENTIOUS Woman are alike .
I just love Pro 18:19 , A brother offended is harder to be WON than a strong CITY and their BARS of a CASTLE !!Whoever is wise will carefully consider the Lord’s faithfulness. Ps 107:43
But I have trusted in Your faithfulness; My heart rejoices in Your salvation. Ps 13:5
Sound judgment wins favor, But the way of the unfaithful is like hard barren, dry soil. Prov 13:15I just love Pro 18:19, A brother offended is harder to be WON than a strong CITY and their BARS of a CASTLE !!
The idea of "leaving" these elementary doctrines does not mean forsaking them and, indeed, not rejecting them. The idea is they will graduate from them, like leaving elementary school and advancing to higher schools. Another author says we are to be "carried upon" the elementary teaching to higher levels. Still, another states the high teachings are going to be built upon or even built from the fundamental elements of the elementary teachings.
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And was WATER BAPTISM given to Gentiles ?The writer is speaking in the form of a lecture. To leave behind means "for the sake of discussion we are going to leave behind...". It's no different than a history teacher saying, "For now we are going to leave behind the Revolutionary War and go on to the War of 1812". Notice the writer also says, "if God permits". It's an expression. Just like some people say, "Good Lord willing I'm going to..."
Now, it in no way implies that anyone is to literally forget or forsake the idea of baptism or anything else.
Water baptism was given to everyone.And was WATER BAPTISM given to Gentiles ?
Or was it given to the Greeks ?
Or was WATER BAPRISM first given to GENTILES >
dan p
But John 1:31 says DIFFERTLY !!Water baptism was given to everyone.
But John 1:31 says DIFFRENT !!
It reads , John wrote , And I knew him NOT // OV is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE PRONOUN , means that he , John never knew Jesus , but that He should be MANIFEST to ISRAEL , therefore am I came BAPTIZING with WATER .
#1 And where are the GENTILES mentioned in John 1:31 ?
# 2 And in Eze 36 Christ is going to SPRINKLE Israel with clean WATER , is that water baptism ??
# 3 And in Rom 6:3 reads , Or are IGNORANT , that as many as were BAPTIZED INTO Christ were BAPTIZED into His DEATH ?
#4 So how are you BAPTIZED INTO His DEATH ?
dan p
# 1 Are you saying that being IMMERSED in water is just is SYMOBOLIC of Christ's death and resurrection ?Well, let's examine this. It is well accepted that Jesus was sent to Israel. He should have become their king messiah. Therefore he was manifested to Israel first. But Israel rejected and crucified him. The gospel was then preached to the gentiles who accepted it. The very first Christians were in fact Jews. But the Church spread further and further until it became nearly all gentile.
To sprinkle with water in the old testament is to make something ritually clean. Jesus would have made Israel clean but they rejected him. Then, to be immersed in water and brought back up is symbolic of Christ's death and resurrection, so we are baptized into his death.
# 1 Are you saying that being IMMERSED in water is just is SYMOBOLIC of Christ's death and resurrection ?
#2 How can anyone be BAPTIZED INTO Christ and be BAPTIZED into his DEATH , since you believe in WATER BAPTIZM ??
# 3 Is that why Christ was BAPTIZED , just SYMOBLIC ??
# 4 Just were have you seen the Greek word for IMMERSION , with a VERSE ??
dan p
Do you have a verse , for EVERYONE ??Water baptism was given to everyone.
Mat 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,Do you have a verse , for EVERYONE ??
# 1 And who are the NATIONS // ETHNOS that they are to teach ?Mat 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
All nations. That's what ended up happening. They went out "into all the world" making disciples "of all nations". Peter and Paul ended up in Rome. Mark went to Egypt. Thomas went to India. None of tis is new. You have this habit of parsing words to make them say something they do not. There are no secrets in the new testament.# 1 And who are the NATIONS // ETHNOS that they are to teach ?
# 2 And just when did the ELEVEN DISCIPLES go to all NATIONS // ETHNOS ??
# 3 They never did , BUT they went to Israel , the NATION // ETHNOS in Acts 2:36-39 !!
# 4 Look at John 11:48 , 50 and 51 and use the Greek NATION // ETHNOS
# 5 ETHNOS , does translated by , PEOPLE , HEATHEN !!
# 6 I say that the nation that the ELEVEN disciples are to reach the 12 TRIBES that are scattered abroad as JAMES 1:1
dan p
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