What have you understood about the charcater of The Ten Commandments?? (2)

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Where wickedness isn't, only goodness is.

Nothing is beyond Omnipresence. All the evil and sin in the world transpires within His Omnipresence.

There is nowhere to hide.

 

[Elder 111]

Christians keep arguing the point that the law does not exist under this 'new dispensation' of faith and grace but is that so? Is it really new?
8Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.
11And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
Does this not show that the same faith and grace was with the law? Being with the circumcised as well as with the uncircumcised before Jesus came?
13For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

 

[GenemZ]

I can read genez. You are welcome to declare that your sin is not of the devil like everyone else's.

zzzzz

My sin, is MY sin. Jesus died for MY sins.

James 1:14
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But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. (not the devil's)
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once again... you never answer the real question.

Matthew 4:1

Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.



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Did the devil get inside Jesus when he was tempted of him?

 

[squint]

My sin, is MY sin. Jesus died for MY sins.

True for the child of God. Not true for the devil that tempts. Blanket statements do not apply.

Did the devil get inside Jesus when he was tempted of him?

Satan had nothing in Him.

as to 'each man's lust' if the tempter brings lust to the body/mind, AND THE TEMPTER DOES BRING LUST to bear, it is that person's lust to deal and contend with, not someone else's.

There is still no disconnect between lust and the lust bringer, the tempter. Temptation is every bit the sin of the devil. Evil thoughts are evil and they are defiling no matter 'who' takes ownership or however brief they are.

James understood these matters as well as any Apostle:

James 3:
14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

 

[GenemZ]

True for the child of God. Not true for the devil that tempts. Blanket statements do not apply.

Satan had nothing in Him.

as to 'each man's lust' if the tempter brings lust to the body/mind, AND THE TEMPTER DOES BRING LUST to bear, it is that person's lust to deal and contend with, not someone else's.

There is still no disconnect between lust and the lust bringer, the tempter. Temptation is every bit the sin of the devil. Evil thoughts are evil and they are defiling no matter 'who' takes ownership or however brief they are.

James understood these matters as well as any Apostle:

James 3:
14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

I'll remind you. The Bible states clearly that the devil will be locked up for a thousand years. A thousand years in which men will continue to sin. The reason we know that is because the Lord will need to rule with an iron scepter to smash those who commit crimes.

Its a shame you don't care about the book of Revelation. Seems odd, that you can not form an opinion on the end times, but you're expecting others to consider your opinion well studied. You're just exposing your Biblical ineptitude by not being able to figure out the end times. I think the devil must be putting his paws over your eyes.

Its a shame you attribute to Satan the attributes of God, being able to be everywhere at once, so he can join the millions of Christians when they sin.

How many strikes is that now against you? Do the math.

Strike three... Satan would also have to be all knowing, to be in the exact location of all the believers when they will sin.

You sure like to make Satan into God. Whom do you worship? Do you know his real name?

Do the twist. Forget the math. You need to spin,never to win.

 

[MJohn7]

Resist satan and he will flee.

 

[GenemZ]

Resist satan and he will flee.

Stick around to see the context.

James 4​

4 What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? 2 You desire but do not have, so you kill. You covet but you cannot get what you want, so you quarrel and fight. You do not have because you do not ask God. 3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.
4 You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think Scripture says without reason that he jealously longs for the spirit he has caused to dwell in us? 6 But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says:
“God opposes the proud
but shows favor to the humble.”

7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.
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The baby church in Jerusalem was in disarray because the unbeliever Jews were persecuting the believers. Their businesses were being boycotted and the members of the church were beginning to get on each others case because of the pressure. The demonic realm was working on this isolated church, trying to get it to implode.

James was telling them to resist the lies of the devil and turn to God for his grace to over come. This passage is not dealing with personal sins as much as the temptation to sin when placed under a corporate pressure that could throw an entire group into an irrational state of panic.

The problem Squint has, is to think that Satan can be everywhere on earth and be one in the actual experiencing of the sins of millions of believers at the same time. When you sin? Does the devil jump in and experience it with you? Squint's answer? "Do the math." He says, yes! That is a weird distortion on the meaning of being 'of' the devil when we sin. Being of the devil refers to what camp and uniform we wear while in a state of sin.

Those who sin are 'of' the devil? Squint has reworded it to read that those who sin are sinning with the devil in their sin. That the devil joins you in your sin. Squint assumes that means that the devil shares with the believer a form of spiritual intercourse in the sinning experience. He also will not address this: The Devil can only be in one location at a time. Therefore, Squint's distortion of what is said is an impossibility. For millions of believers all over the planet commit sins at different times, and different places. Satan is not omnipresent. Your citation from James was an isolated are of one church.

 

[from scratch]

Christians keep arguing the point that the law does not exist under this 'new dispensation' of faith and grace but is that so? Is it really new?
8Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.
11And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
Does this not show that the same faith and grace was with the law? Being with the circumcised as well as with the uncircumcised before Jesus came?
13For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Sorry I can't connect you commentary with your quote.

 

[from scratch]

nm

 

[from scratch]

My sin, is MY sin. Jesus died for MY sins.

James 1:14
​

But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. (not the devil's)
​

once again... you never answer the real question.

Matthew 4:1

Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.



​

Did the devil get inside Jesus when he was tempted of him?

Now there's a good question for him. Excellent!!!!

 

[GenemZ]

Now there's a good question for him. Excellent!!!!

He won't touch it. He'll try to find something else in my post to address.

 

[squint]

Now there's a good question for him. Excellent!!!!

Already addressed by The Word. Too bad you guys can't read.

My general observation is that there is a lot of dodging and excusing of every persons sin by every measure available.

I quit playing that religious game. Jesus is nobody's fool.

s

 

[squint]

Stick around to see the context.

James 4​

4 What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? 2 You desire but do not have, so you kill. You covet but you cannot get what you want, so you quarrel and fight. You do not have because you do not ask God. 3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.
4 You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think Scripture says without reason that he jealously longs for the spirit he has caused to dwell in us? 6 But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says:
“God opposes the proud
but shows favor to the humble.”

7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.
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The baby church in Jerusalem was in disarray because the unbeliever Jews were persecuting the believers. Their businesses were being boycotted and the members of the church were beginning to get on each others case because of the pressure. The demonic realm was working on this isolated church, trying to get it to implode.

James was telling them to resist the lies of the devil and turn to God for his grace to over come. This passage is not dealing with personal sins as much as the temptation to sin when placed under a corporate pressure that could throw an entire group into an irrational state of panic.

The problem Squint has, is to think that Satan can be everywhere on earth and be one in the actual experiencing of the sins of millions of believers at the same time. When you sin? Does the devil jump in and experience it with you? Squint's answer? "Do the math." He says, yes! That is a weird distortion on the meaning of being 'of' the devil when we sin. Being of the devil refers to what camp and uniform we wear while in a state of sin.

Those who sin are 'of' the devil? Squint has reworded it to read that those who sin are sinning with the devil in their sin. That the devil joins you in your sin. Squint assumes that means that the devil shares with the believer a form of spiritual intercourse in the sinning experience. He also will not address this: The Devil can only be in one location at a time. Therefore, Squint's distortion of what is said is an impossibility. For millions of believers all over the planet commit sins at different times, and different places. Satan is not omnipresent. Your citation from James was an isolated are of one church.

If you think I haven't heard everyone's excuse for their sins of the devil you'd be wrong.

Satan can put 12,000 devils in a single man. Satan and his anti-Christ spirits being intimately linked to ALL SIN in everyone is not an issue, except within those who provide cover and excuses for same. ding on y'all.

s

 

[GenemZ]

Already addressed by The Word. Too bad you guys can't read.

My general observation is that there is a lot of dodging and excusing of every persons sin by every measure available.

I quit playing that religious game. Jesus is nobody's fool.

s

You never gave a *straight* answer. You only did if I were a mind reader. You're getting exposed slowly but surely. Keep it up. Here's the rope. There is a nice tree over yonder.

 

[squint]

You never gave a *straight* answer. You only did if I were a mind reader. You're getting exposed slowly but surely. Keep it up. Here's the rope. There is a nice tree over yonder.

If you think I'm interested in hearing anyone justify their sin which is of the devil, you'd be very wrong.

 

[GenemZ]

If you think I haven't heard everyone's excuse for their sins of the devil you'd be wrong.

Satan can put 12,000 devils in a single man. Satan and his anti-Christ spirits being intimately linked to ALL SIN in everyone is not an issue, except within those who provide cover and excuses for same. ding on y'all.

s

Believers are all over the world and do not need any help from demons in order to sin. You act as if there were no demons nobody would sin.


Again I will tell you.. Satan will be locked up for one thousand years during the Millennium. People will be sinning. You are failing math.


The inborn sin nature does a good job of it on its own. Demons usually get on the case of believers who are moving forward towards maturity in Christ. Those ones need to resist the devil.

For those believers who live in the grittiness of their own fallen natures demons do not have to bother with, unless one of them is confronted with truth they had been denying. Then the demons work on that carnal believer to lie against the truth.

Do the math. Lie + truth = lie.

 

[GenemZ]

If you think I'm interested in hearing anyone justify their sin which is of the devil, you'd be very wrong.

Ploy # 66... redirect the topic and accuse.

Answer the question. We could have avoided a slew of zig zagging posts if you had.


Again I will tell you.. Satan will be locked up for one thousand years during the Millennium. People will be sinning. You are failing math.

 

[squint]

Believers are all over the world and do not need any help from demons in order to sin. You act as if there were no demons nobody would sin.

I'd have to say your intentions to blame man don't line up with Paul AT ALL:

2 Corinthians 5:19
that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.

Again I will tell you.. Satan will be locked up for one thousand years during the Millennium. People will be sinning. You are failing math.

I don't care how BIG you write it, your end times guesswork is false.

You are welcome to excuse sin, evil and that being of the devil til the cows come home.

It still won't work.

s

 

[GenemZ]

I don't care how BIG you write it, your end times guesswork is false.

Its not guesswork. Demons wish it were, But, its not guesswork. Satan will be locked up for 1000 years. If you can read Revelation and not see that? That may explain your problem with rightly handling the Word of God.

Look... I played your game long enough. Anyone here at this point who can not see through you is not worth any more exposing of you for how you can not give direct and straight answers to actual questions What's been done should be enough. Enjoy confessing your mutual sins with the devil to God when you sin. You may need to rewrite 1 John 1:9 to do it.

You are going on Ignore.

 

[Wordkeeper]

He won't touch it. He'll try to find something else in my post to address.

I have a problem with people who are obsessed with end times. It's a simple idea: bad people meet a bad end. Really, the focus should be on avoiding an unfavorable judgment, as so many examples exist of people being surprised at receiving it, indicating it's not an easily understood requirement.

People go for the easy explanation, like the police in the detective novel. The butler did it. Ignoring the inconvenient extra information. Why didn't the dog bark?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Blaze

Why does Scripture say ALL that God created was good. Including the methods and instruments He used for testing, first Adam, then Abraham, then the Jews, then Christ.

Satan is God's instrument for testing. The OT commentaries list five ways Satan manifests himself, but we should concentrate on his role as tempter, and as man's sin nature. Here's a possible explanation of the 1000 year period of inactivity:

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Bound = the same as saying "I'm all tied up, I can't go with you." It's circumstances that will bind the Devil for the 1000 years. Reason this is true is, do you recall how the man possessed with "Legion" in Mark chapter five was able to snap chains that bound him in the graveyard outside of town? If a mere flesh and blood man hasthe ability to snap chains with Satan's help, then nothing could bind Satan in this manner either, EXCEPT a removal of the ability to do as he wishes. Like those of us that are "all tied up" with work and unable to go someplace we desire. So, , and what are these circumstances that bind Satan from doing as he desires for the 1000 years?

Isaiah 24:1,3 "Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof. The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word." Jeremiah 25:33, "And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground."

He can't tempt anyone because they are all DEAD! They are BIRD FOOD!

1000 Years in Prophecy explained