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I've never had any law promoter tell me where God told Gentiles to observe the Sabbath, they keep playing find the hat with the rabbit in it.
I've never had any law promoter tell me where God told Gentiles to observe the Sabbath, they keep playing find the hat with the rabbit in it.
Originally Posted by Sophrosyne
I've never had any law promoter tell me where God told Gentiles to observe the Sabbath, they keep playing find the hat with the rabbit in it.
JohnRabbit
just trying to understand
Must be a Jewish thang......Good point!
This is all that was ever commanded of the Gentiles by Law abiding believer Jews.
No mention of them keeping the Sabbath. SDA's are primarily Gentiles, who believed.Acts 15:19-20
“It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.
I believe both Jews and Gentiles need to observe the Sabbath because it was given at Creation to Adam and Eve. I've written a book called "Nehemiah the Sabbath Reformer" which has a deep spiritual lesson about how God's people need to reform the Sabbath.
God Bless
Marc Rasell
But in all honesty, the 'law promoter' has continually based his argument on violating the Law. I see this as a contradiction impossible to reconcile in this dimensionI've never had any law promoter tell me where God told Gentiles to observe the Sabbath, they keep playing find the hat with the rabbit in it.
A belief in violating the Law in order to promote the law begs the question of where their belief is placed. Decoder rings to the Pen of Liability are necessary at this juncture.Good point!
This is all that was ever commanded of the Gentiles by Law abiding believer Jews.
Acts 15:19-20No mention of them keeping the Sabbath. SDA's are primarily Gentiles, who believed.
It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.
But in all honesty, the 'law promoter' has continually based his argument on violating the Law. I see this as a contradiction impossible to reconcile in this dimension
A belief in violating the Law in order to promote the law begs the question of where their belief is placed. Decoder rings to the Pen of Liability are necessary at this juncture.
I believe in following righteousness, goodness, truth, faith, love, hope. We dont need to understand all of pauls mysteries, all we need to do is obey the commandments given by the Lord and his apostles that are written in the New Testament, never give up even when we fail, and get filled with the spirit, get that love, joy and peace in our heart,mind and soul, humbling ourselves with a contrite heart and a spirit of lowly meekness, submitting, kind, gentle, controlling ourselves and our tongue. Seeking to be what God loves.
God did not save you because you are a nice person. He saved you to train you to become a king someday under his Kingship. That takes knowledge and understanding.
2 Peter 3:18By the way.... No ordinary pew-sitting believer can read Paul for himself and walk away with great understanding. Paul's teachings require that we learn from highly qualified pastor-teachers. One who is a serious student of God's Word.
But continue to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior
Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
Philippians 1:9
And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more and more in
knowledge and depth of insight.
God only gives certain gifts to certain men. If you do not have the gift? Most of us will not. You can read Paul's epistles and will feel like a deer caught in the headlights.
Even Peter admitted that Paul's letter contain truths that were hard for him to grasp. Don't give up on Paul. You need to find a good teacher, that's all.
Grace and peace...
With all do respect, i know we are all sinners and my heart is contrite, so much so that i weep sometimes. I dont need a teacher my friend but i do listen to truth wherever its found. You show me a man who understands all mysteries and i'll show you a man teaching fundamentals.
1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you.
But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
I dont know everything and could learn much, but my concern is about who i should learn from, Not many agree on these mysteries so i rely upon God, i just get frustrated listening to theologians argue.
If that means, what you erroneously say it does? Then why would we need to be taught about that truth in the first place?
That passage speaks concerning about when you are taught by a pastor teacher (in their case, it was John), you do not need a man to teach you how to think about what you were just taught. It was given as a warning against divisiveness.
There are many teachers. But, there should only be a few if God's will were being done by men.
2 Timothy 4:3We have a great number of teachers today.. all with contrary points of view on many issues. Yet? If God's will were done? We would only have a few.. sound teachers. Not many. Only a few.
For the time will come when people will not put
up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires,
they will gather around them a great number of teachers
to say what their itching ears want to hear.
James 3:1Paul warned that there will be a great number of teachers, all competing to see who's flesh they can please amongst the carnal Christians. James tells us that we should only have a few good teachers if God had his way with us.
My brethren, let not many of you become teachers,
knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.
Jesus warned about the great number of teachers. They are they broad and wide road that most believers will travel. The selections to please the carnal believer's flesh will be "broad and wide." Something for everybody! Out the great number, only a few will be teaching sound doctrine.
Notice how Jesus followed up by warning them against false prophets? Jesus was just speaking about a great body of false teachings (broad and wide) that will be offered to believers vs a very narrow choice for the ones who will be sound. And, that these ones who find the good will face pressures, that those who are out to please their egos and flesh will not face.
Matthew 7:13-15
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road
that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate
and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheeps clothing,
but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
And.. Jesus was not saying only a few get save as some assume that passage was speaking about. He was speaking to believers. Jesus was saying that only a few out of all the many believers will find the way that leads to life.
But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."Life more abundantly," Jesus said he came to give freely to all who believe. As we can see today... very few believers are really happy. Very few have an abundance of life. Most have an abundance of something other. Just like Jesus said it would happen.
So you will see those theologians arguing, each pitching their appeal to try to reach the carnally minded believer in hope of making contact with their particular ego's desire.
2 Timothy 4:3That is why we see such a great number of denominations today! The approaches they offer are broad and wide.
For the time will come when people will not put
up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires,
they will gather around them a great number of teachers
to say what their itching ears want to hear.
I get frustrated with the wanna be theologians.I dont know everything and could learn much, but my concern is about who i should learn from, Not many agree on these mysteries so i rely upon God, i just get frustrated listening to theologians argue.
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