What has Jesus done for you?

[Peacemaker1]

There is a remnant of the old sin nature in the flesh of all of us or Paul spoke a lot of words about even himself battling the flesh for nothing. And he certainly was a changed man.

here, look at what it means for all who cant understand the hard words Paul spoke of, and how they resist the other scriptures also, to their own d estruction..
2 Peter 3:16
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

 

[Peacemaker1]

now, if you wan to go into what Paul spoke of, I am ready to do so with you.

 

[Tellyontellyon]

now, if you wan to go into what Paul spoke of, I am ready to do so with you.

No... Answer the OP question in a simple way relevant to somebody who is a non-Christian enquirer, or don't answer at all.

 

[Dave G.]

now, if you wan to go into what Paul spoke of, I am ready to do so with you.

Too far off topic from the OP. It's not a bible study or debate forum. Take your concerns to a theology specific or debate forum. Lets get on topic for this forum and the OP concerns. I know you're pretty new here but try to get a grip on how the various forums within the site work.. If you're having difficulty with that then you can always contact a moderator or staff member.

 

[Peacemaker1]

ok i will go into paul for us.

do you guys struggle with sin, or you struggle with me ?

i can go through word for word, but i wont right now, i will ask you this only, are you sold under sin, or bought with a price, and if not sold under sin ( because we are bought with a price) then we know the struggle listed below, is before we are no longer sold under sin, but we are now bought with a price to know a better way.



1 Corinthians 6:20
For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

1 Corinthians 7:23
Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.

Romans 7:
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.



Romans 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

 

[Tellyontellyon]

ok i will go into paul for us.

do you guys struggle with sin, or you struggle with me ?

i can go through word for word, but i wont right now, i will ask you this only, are you sold under sin, or bought with a price, and if not sold under sin ( because we are bought with a price) then we know the struggle listed below, is before we are no longer sold under sin, but we are now bought with a price to know a better way.



1 Corinthians 6:20
For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

1 Corinthians 7:23
Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.

Romans 7:
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.



Romans 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

Why do you insist on off topic discussion? Even after being asked not to do it more than once.
Are you under the power of the Spirit or your own ego?
The 'spiritual bypass' may be the highway to hell.
(ÑB.. calling people back to topic is not off topic!)

 

[Peacemaker1]

if Christians cant even know their topic, are they not this...


Matthew 15:14
Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

Romans 2:
20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.
21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?
22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?

Hebrews 5:12
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

 

[Peacemaker1]

the whole of the forum is off topic, because it employs talk, and not an end to the talk of deception, which Jesus Christ has done, by giving HIs body and blood, why else do you think the earth and heavens have to be melted, they are corrupt, and why else do you think the kingdom of God is within us, as it is the only that is not corrupt.


Luke 17:
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

2 Corinthians 4:18
While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

 

[Tellyontellyon]

the whole of the forum is off topic, because it employs talk, and not an end to the talk of deception, which Jesus Christ has done, by giving HIs body and blood, why else do you think the earth and heavens have to be melted, they are corrupt, and why else do you think the kingdom of God is within us, as it is the only that is not corrupt.


Luke 17:
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

2 Corinthians 4:18
While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

You are off topic.

 

[MForbes]

Best way to clean up this thread (and other threads) is to ignore Peacemaker1. It's much better if you can't see his posts. Mouse over his icon, select "more options" at the bottom right, and click on ignore. This way, your view can be free of his off topic rantings.

 

[Dave G.]

Best way to clean up this thread (and other threads) is to ignore Peacemaker1. It's much better if you can't see his posts. Mouse over his icon, select "more options" at the bottom right, and click on ignore. This way, your view can be free of his off topic ravings.

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Correct, that's what I did early this morning, soon as I saw he was persisting. That only makes 3 people in my time at CF that I felt the need to hit ignore.

 

[Tellyontellyon]

Correct, that's what I did early this morning, soon as I saw he was persisting. That only makes 3 people in my time at CF that I felt the need to hit ignore.

I don't like to do it, especially as I'm no expert here. But it's bordering on insanity.

 

[MForbes]

I don't like to do it, especially as I'm no expert here. But it's bordering on insanity.

It will help your sanity.

 

[Peacemaker1]

the problem is, that they dont realise by ignoring they will receive the same in return, as Jesu showed to us all...



Luke 13:
23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.




2 Timothy 4:
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.