OK... let us try again to get a ringer...Nice try, no horseshoe
OK... let us try again to get a ringer...
Here's the question: " Why do insist on this particular passage, relating to Jesus' temptation in the desert, as being interpreted literally? "
I know you don't have an inerrancy issue.
I know that you don't believe Jesus is Satan.
I know you don't believe Jesus was "babbling" to himself. I know you DO believe he was talking to Satan. So you don't have to address any of that.. just answer the question.
You are the one insisting he is talking to someone... that is a literal interpretation. You are the one saying he couldn't be talking to himself, that is literal. You are the one that insist Satan is real, that is literal.Who said I interpreted the account "literally?" How do we "discern" an "anti-Christ" spirit in a "literal sense?"
As stated, we haven't discussed it.
bravo
Why are you trying to pin "literalist" upon me now? Got some diatribe ready to unleash?
enjoy!
squint
You are the one insisting he is talking to someone...
that is a literal interpretation.
You are the one saying he couldn't be talking to himself, that is literal.
You are the one that insist Satan is real, that is literal.
What frustrates me is the incomprehensibility of your posts.
Have you noticed that you must either be insane or so much more brilliant than everyone else... NO ONE understands what you are writing.
It is almost as if some monkey is pushing randomly arranged words on a key board to form these sentences of yours.
Hi, squint.
I have a question for you, because I am curious:
Would you perhaps agree that Satan is sin?
Romans 7:11
For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death.
The "Devil" is fully implicated in "all sin." And yes, I do equate Satan as the Devil, an Anti-Christ spirit that God Himself made to resist LOVE and to "cover His children" with his darkness in both our flesh and minds.
But as you also know, I do not and will not nor is there cause to make God, His Christ, or any of mankind THE SAME AS the workings of that anti-Christ spirit.
Would you agree then that Jesus was tempted by sin?
Yes, I do know. I understand why you wouldn't want to do that. What I do not understand is why you will not allow another to have a different point of view on whether or not satan exists.
You see, in my point of view, the word satan is just one word in place of another for the purpose of storytelling.
Can it not be acceptable that I have this point of view? I do not hold the point of view that Jesus was what He was talking to. I only hold the point of view that it was not an entity.
Sin is an "action" of the devil/satan. Jesus had no "temptation" in His Flesh or His Mind.
Jesus did not have "sin" in any form in Himself or in His Words.
But the promotions that mankind, God or His Christ are the same as the anti-Christ will receive the Light of Division by those who know better from His Words.
Do not mistake that in these dealings, that we deal with other people. We deal with "spirits."
To relegate that working to "storytelling" is very true as it pertains to LYING.
I do not call the anti-Christ spirit "an entity." It is the power of ANTI-LIFE
That hatred is the promotion that those whom we are to love, ALL MANKIND, are going to be fried alive forever.
So you can either blame the people who hold that view or you can understand the great working of that spirit and NOT blame them.
But, squint, the Bible says Jesus was tempted by the devil. Oh, you are saying that the temptation came from outside of Him, yes?
You do not agree that Satan is sin?
I know. One cannot have sin, sin is not a thing to have.
So, you are debating with everyone because you do not want what you believe to be false promoted?
Storytelling does not pertain to lying...did Jesus lie when He told parables? Those were stories, and they were true even though they never happened.
But, you have been calling Satan a separate entity. Now you are calling Satan a 'power'...
Well, you know I don't believe that.
There is another choice, blame no one for anything and love all, including the anti-christ spirit.
squint, I just want to say, that even though we disagree on some points, we agree on others, and I am glad you do not blame mankind for their sins and you offer love to all.
Yes, as an attempt to GLOM ONTO Him in flesh and mind, to make ANOTHER SLAVE of them, which was opely rebuked.
Sin is an "action" of Satan in the flesh or mind. It's an action of "missing the mark," violating law, or anything that is not of faith, which works by LOVE.
We cannot say we have "no sin"
You may see that without a position of the anti-Christ spirit upon which to judge you will only have yourself or your fellow man to blame, and that won't "cut it" scripturally speaking.
I declare the unconditional Love and Grace of God for all of mankind.
Jesus spoke in "parables" because the Good News is NOT unto the resistors. A parable forces spiritual understandings and also brings palpable divisions.
You do perhaps like many "universalists" still condemn your fellow man in some shape or fashion. I have found very few who have departed from that working entirely.
lol. There is no command to love the workings of darkness.
You do realize that there is not a single scripture in the entire Bible that grants any form of salvation specifically to the devil and his messengers.
No, really, we can't 'have' sin, sin is an 'action' as you have said, and not a 'thing'. One cannot 'have' an action but they can do an action.
No, I do not realize that...but, I also do not care. I see a God who is Love, and Love loves what it creates. If God loves satan and his demons, then so will I.
Paul knew that whenever he desired to do good, that EVIL was present with him. Not that he, as Gods child was THAT EVIL.
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