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What happened to the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil?

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I don't see how one can touch something that isn't there for them to touch. Perhaps Enoch meant it couldn't be touched until that day in heaven when those allowed access would be there.

It's like saying you can't touch the wall of China, if you never go to China of course you can't touch it. ;)
 
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but if either tree shows up anytime before that , might I suggest we don't even touch it until after judgement day.which I will take to mean the Great white throne.
the other daughter trees and springs of wisdom and such I will ask about then and there.
in the mean time your Tree of Knowledge appears to be wherever his throne is I think is what Enoch is saying .
and I suspect that the dismantled tree is probably it.
I wonder why he dismantled it? yet it is still growing I think it said .
it doesn't seem to need a root.
 
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I wonder if this parable has relevance?
Matthew 25King James Version (KJV)
25 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.

3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
 
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I think that the tree of knowledge of good and evil is like a library of holograms. Access by touch, eating toxic. The tree of "knowledge" was for education, that Yeshua would be the teacher of what and which is best. Satan twisted it around to the point that it was "good" to eat. It wasn't because viewing is one thing under the guidance of Yeshua, and ingesting is another of internalizing it via Satan's illusion that it would make one wise..
 
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This seems to me to be considerable.
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And Lamech said unto his wives: Adah and Zillah, hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech; for I have slain a man for wounding me, and a young man for bruising me;
24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.


Forgiveness.
22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.


The Song of Moses
34'Is it not laid up in store with Me, Sealed up in My treasuries? 35'Vengeance is Mine, and retribution, In due time their foot will slip; For the day of their calamity is near, And the impending things are hastening upon them.' 36"For the LORD will vindicate His people, And will have compassion on His servants, When He sees that their strength is gone, And there is none remaining, bond or free.…
 
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but if either tree shows up anytime before that , might I suggest we don't even touch it until after judgement day.which I will take to mean the Great white throne.
the other daughter trees and springs of wisdom and such I will ask about then and there.
in the mean time your Tree of Knowledge appears to be wherever his throne is I think is what Enoch is saying .
and I suspect that the dismantled tree is probably it.
I wonder why he dismantled it? yet it is still growing I think it said .
it doesn't seem to need a root.
Which Enoch?


16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.
19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.
21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.
22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.
23 And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.


25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.
5 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:
7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters:
8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.
9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:
10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters:
11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.
12 And Cainan lived seventy years and begat Mahalaleel:
13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters:
14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.
15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared:
16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters:
17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.
18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.

21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:

22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech.
26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:
27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.
28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
Noah.
 
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here around minutes 36-42 in there some place is the tree of life and the dismembered tree.


OH I found it , he says it is at 44-46 and he says it is the tree of wisdom that Adam and eve ate.
I wonder what the tree is that is dismembered.. it is not the tree of knowledge.
 
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I always wonder about if it was about training and timing also.
but later I believe that at least doing it with out his permission / rights was choosing a life without him.
thus thus in the old covenant had boats loads of stuff you shouldn't even touch and here again says
Heb 13:10

We have an altar, where of they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.

thus he has always kept forbidden fruit in our face for a very good reason I think.



and about the opposite tree has it's laws also.

He promises to some churches that some will be given the right to eat from the tree of LIFE .

Rev 2:7

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Rev 22:2

In the midst of the street of it, and on either sideof the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Rev 22:14

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.



does anyone know when we are or are not to eat from the tree of life?
we can make lots of assumptions. but do we know?
from all I can find in it . just don't do it there is important conditions / laws associated to it. . first that He give the right.
and a second condition I only found plainly stated in Enoch's record. and is hinted at here in these verses.
and what even made me question when we can or can't , was some ancient beliefs by Amazonian indians.
they knew NOT to EAT .


There is a right that is given or taken because of outside conditions and laws higher than we now understand .
because we don't know what we don't know. if we rely on our own knowledge , ideas and our own understandings.. we are all lost already.
but might I suggest that anyone who takes that fruit before they get permission from the real Lord of Lords and really his Father face to face in his city .. could get the same consequences that Adam and Eve did for stealing, taking with out permission or really against permission , or acts of rebellion . consequences being Expelled and cursed to die/decay/ or be punished with pain for the act of rebellion. etc. which one I don't know . I don't want to know . all I know is
"Don't touch that " or you get the hammer.. hammer time. not until I see the father face to face.
so is it about self will? or Obedience to him ? or both ?
Even lost tribes in the amazon have been told by their shaman and such not to eat from the tree of life until they are given permission by someone they can probably only define..
my huge problem there in lies who might be passing out permission and when they might be doing that !
I suspect the next round of temptation ( time of trail) or the one past that past the 1000 years , somehow might be like the old story and it has the same exact rhyme but a different tree.. . maybe the song should be labelled " rights and entitlements" or " our knowledge of the laws of a loving God " or maybe
"surely He would" ?

but what I know for sure is
"don't touch that"
By all means at all times continue in His Grace, yet we continue in His word to know the truth of things which He desires us to search out, and it is this Truth of Him which we are permitted to boast in;

I have no kind sentiments for someone who would presume to discover a divine truth to use as if it were at their own discretion, so, in essence, I totally agree with you there.

Stay in Grace!
 
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33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
 
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