What happened to the Good Samaritan?

[reverend B]

Explained in post 13.

perhaps you could cite some of the scholars you have mentioned twice now that don't believe this to be a parable. i am very interested in this new scriptural development.

 

[Calminian]

perhaps you could cite some of the scholars you have mentioned twice now that don't believe this to be a parable. i am very interested in this new scriptural development.

If you read post 13 you would have asked the question differently. You obviously didn't. The question should be, what scholars believe this to be a true account.

I know John MacArthur believes this to be a true account along with the Lazarus and rich man account. He rejects the parable excuse. In fact I don't know of any of the bible teachers I listen to that disagree with him. There's no basis by which to disagree. But the real question is, what did Luke believe? If it was a parabole (allegory, figure of speech), why did he not indicate so? Why do you believe it's allegory?

 

[Calminian]

Guys, the mod has clarified the rules. If someone wants to tackle this in General Theology, I'd be happy to participate.

 

[reverend B]

If you read post 13 you would have asked the question differently. You obviously didn't. The question should be, what scholars believe this to be a true account.

I know John MacArthur believes this to be a true account along with the Lazarus and rich man account. He rejects the parable excuse. In fact I don't know of any of the bible teachers I listen to that disagree with him. There's no basis by which to disagree. But the real question is, what did Luke believe? If it was a parabole (allegory, figure of speech), why did he not indicate so? Why do you believe it's allegory?

but since you asked....
parable does not mean allegory.
a parable is a story with a moral. very akin to a fable.
an allegory uses substitutes to stand in for other things, like in orwells "animal farm". an allegory can be a parable, but a parable is not necessarily an allegory.
does that help?

 

[Calminian]

but since you asked....
parable does not mean allegory.
a parable is a story with a moral. very akin to a fable.
an allegory uses substitutes to stand in for other things, like in orwells "animal farm". an allegory can be a parable, but a parable is not necessarily an allegory.
does that help?

I used the greek word parabole, not the modern parable. It carries the idea of allegory or figure of speech.This was all explained.

 

[reverend B]

I used the greek word parabole, not the modern parable. It carries the idea of allegory or figure of speech.This was all explained.

http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&...ble+good+samaritan&sitesearch=www.biblebb.com

i think you will enjoy this link. there are many, many examples of john mccarthur refering to the "parable of the Good Samaritan". perhaps this is a different john mccarthur, or maybe he has another thousand pages regarding the parabole of the Good Samaritan.

 

[reverend B]

I used the greek word parabole, not the modern parable. It carries the idea of allegory or figure of speech.This was all explained.

If you are a Christian you will be merciful. A Roman writer of natural history said that in India he heard about an animal called the griffin. He described it as having four feet like a big beast and wings like an eagle. He said it was hard to classify whether it was a fowl or a beast, and that only the gods knew what it was. (Aelian, Hist. Anim. B.iv.c.27). When I read that I thought to myself, That reminds me of phony Christians. They profess to fly on wings to heaven, but their feet are fast to the earth. They are professed sons of the kingdom but they never get out of the dirt. Phony Christians are like the unmerciful Levite and priest who passed by the injured man laying on the road in the parable of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:30-35).

that is from john mccarthurs "the beatitudes: happy are the merciful".

 

[MikeMcK]

Who am I to say whether I go to Heaven or Hell? Would I not be arrogant to presume I know His mind in judging me?

God has already told us that we can know for certain right now whether or not we're saved.

 

[MikeMcK]

It does not matter... because only God really knows, period. After all, someone once said that not everyone who says Lord Lord is going to Heaven... it is possible to deceive yourself.

But that same person, Jesus Christ, also said that we can know that we are saved.

If you don't know that you're saved, then I would strongly urge you to look into that.

 

[Calminian]

http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&...ble+good+samaritan&sitesearch=www.biblebb.com

i think you will enjoy this link. there are many, many examples of john mccarthur referring to the "parable of the Good Samaritan". perhaps this is a different john mccarthur, or maybe he has another thousand pages regarding the parabole of the Good Samaritan.

You still haven't read post 13. I guess you're not going to. I've conceded the point over and over. Guess it's a lost cause.

 

[reverend B]

Trust me I'm being merciful with you. You have no idea how blunt I'd like to be. So I guess I'm safe. BTW, you still haven’t admitted that MacArthur agrees with me that the samaritan story is not fictitious. I of course qualified all this in my post but you don’t seem to hold honesty in very high regard. Don’t you think true christians should be more honest?

MacArthur also has a lot to say about liberal christianity. Perhaps you might google that for a while. I’m sure you’d rather hear it from him than me.

if i understand you correctly, you are saying maccarthur is suggesting that the Good Samaritan is a non-fiction parable?

 

[MethodMan]

This will be the last time we try to re-open this thread

No Debate. Please review the guidelines I already posted in this thread.

 

[reverend B]

The question should be, what scholars believe this to be a true account.

I know John MacArthur believes this to be a true account along with the Lazarus and rich man account. He rejects the parable excuse.

hmmm....