What happend over in Trad Land?

[Pythons]

It used to be fairly active back when I was posting. I more or less had my hands tied behind my back and posted I was done with that forum because of that and stated I would no longer post there.

The Traditional SDA section has essentially become a rendering works. What happened? Perhaps the Trinity Truth (s) I shared prior to leaving started some type of theological healing. In any event it looks as if it closed up shop.

I would welcome a PM if people don't want to answer publically as to the reason.

God Bless.

 

[StormyOne]

I think they found a forum which allows them to enjoy posting their beliefs and various opinions without being questioned, so they have moved on....

 

[Joe67]

Unity through repeating the same words is like direct current. It generates a great deal of heat and thereby energy loss and lasts a short period of use. It is useful in an elementary way and should not be despised.

Unity through opposing words is like alternating current. It generates less heat and thereby energy loss and it lasts much longer without a sub-station to revitalize the power.

Unity of the Spirit is the unity that lasts forever. It neither hates or despises.

The full measure of God begins with the elementary and moves through the secondary to bring us to resurrection by the Spirit.

Joe

 

[VictorC]

Unity through repeating the same words is like direct current. It generates a great deal of heat and thereby energy loss and lasts a short period of use. It is useful in an elementary way and should not be despised.

Unity through opposing words is like alternating current. It generates less heat and thereby energy loss and it lasts much longer without a sub-station to revitalize the power.

As one who has a background in electrical engineering, I need to point out your appeal to an example that is hopelessly inaccurate. The losses incurred in AC distribution are identical to those incurred using DC, as long as the length of a given run is short with respect to the wavelength of the AC power used (60Hz has a wavelength of 5,000 kilometers). The reason we distribute using AC is because the potential can be changed through a transformer, which won't work with DC. A substation is nothing more than a three-phase transformer and breakers for protection.

We use very high voltages to reduce losses incurred by resistance in the wire, and it makes no difference whether we use AC or DC distribution as far as the wire is concerned (this ignores the effects of inductance, which doesn't produce heat anyway and is negligable at 60Hz).

Unity of the Spirit is the unity that lasts forever. It neither hates or despises.

The unity we have as Christians comes from sharing the one faith that has been entrusted to us. This is shown as the goal in Ephesians 4:

11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,
12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;
14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,
15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head----Christ----
16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

I would submit that this is what God desires for us - a unity and a love for one another that is fostered by a knowledge base that would make us immune to doctrines that are a departure from the one faith we were given (insert your favorite "prophet" here).

The full measure of God begins with the elementary and moves through the secondary to bring us to resurrection by the Spirit.

Joe

God will resurrect us by His power, according to the times that are in His hand. I don't see how you're going to "bring" yourself to resurrection when it isn't provided by our efforts.

I hope this isn't reasoned from your model of power distribution, though.

 

[Joe67]

Victor,

Praise the Lord, for in your post we are given a nice example of alternating current of understanding.

This is making the thread go farther.

The Lord gives faith to the simple.

Joe

 

[Pythons]

I think they found a forum which allows them to enjoy posting their beliefs and various opinions without being questioned, so they have moved on....

In that case perhaps it would be best to have the progressives generate the FSG's and initiate the merge with the progressives in charge. I for one would like to continue to discuss the Trinity.

 

[VictorC]

Victor,

Praise the Lord, for in your post we are given a nice example of alternating current of understanding.

This is making the thread go farther.

The Lord gives faith to the simple.

Joe

I'm not sure if the thread's progression is enhanced by allusions to physical models that aren't well understood, or allusions to a goal of unity in the faith that aren't addressed from the Biblical passages that describe that goal.

(answer: resonance, and current in a resonant tank is far greater than the excitation provided)

 

[VictorC]

In that case perhaps it would be best to have the progressives generate the FSG's and initiate the merge with the progressives in charge. I for one would like to continue to discuss the Trinity.

There are those who share your desire to discuss with a particular subgroup. However, the structure that CF created placed a "safe haven" above the need for dialogue, and the traditional SDA forum doesn't allow dissent for that reason. Before the SDA congregational forum was split into these two, the complaints of those wanting no exposure to evangelical Christianity could have been heard from Topeka to Santa Barbara.

 

[Pythons]

There are those who share your desire to discuss with a particular subgroup. However, the structure that CF created placed a "safe haven" above the need for dialogue, and the traditional SDA forum doesn't allow dissent for that reason. Before the SDA congregational forum was split into these two, the complaints of those wanting no exposure to evangelical Christianity could have been heard from Topeka to Santa Barbara.

I sort of thought that might be what happened.

 

[Joe67]

Wisdom is justified by both of her children, John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth.

John the baptist, the end of the old way.

Jesus of Nazareth, the beginning of the new way.

Opposite but in unity of spirit.

Joe