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Do you know what a "moral panic" is?
No they don't. They are not left leaning.
May I introduce you to me.
Pro-abortion, pro gay-marriage, pro-euthanasia, pro-secularism, pro social democracy, pro net-neutrality, pro-minimum wage, pro-labour laws, pro-single-payer health service, pro anti-discrimination legislation (against employers being allowed to fire people for no reason, against business owners being allowed to refuse service on arbitrary grounds), pro civil liberties in general.
Do I sound like a right-winger to you?
^^This. 100% this. The ends just don't justify the means.
Nah. If they hadn't been associated with a controversy one would have been invented for them. Compare the sad puppy movement.
Here you go.Rape advocates? Citation needed.
(Maybe try a less overwrought term, lol)
Hooo boy. Where to start.
Here's what I'm talking about when I say feminists are terrified of conventional male sexuality.
The constant barracking of male sexual preference for particular body types (hello Anita!) while the same is barely done to women. Even though we have done virtually nothing by comparison to disestablish conventional male beauty norms, and women's reinforcement of them, the way we have with conventional female beauty norms - but again, this seems to be one of those weird circumstances where the sorts of social dynamics presumed to apply to men magically don't to women? I suppose women are just better than men or something
Women's Standards Of Attractiveness Are As Unrealistic As Men's
There's their whole inconsistent attitude to sexual material that is consumed primarily by men as opposed to women.
When men like perfectly legal, consensual porn, they're still derided as sad creeps that are harming women. Women's erotica on the other hand can be legally purchased containing tales of incest, child rape and bestiality - and not a peep. And to remind people, this is in a culture where one rape joke reinforces a rape culture, but women getting off to stories of children being abused and people profiting from the sale of such is apparently not objectionable in the same way.
Men like porn, and it's "toxic masculinity" - an inference made about being male. Women clear bookshops out of Fifty Shades, a story where a woman debases herself for a conventionally attractive billionaire? Nope nope nope, can't infer anything negative from that about women at all, you misogynist.
When men like magazines that depict one preferred body type but saying nothing at all about other body types? Harmful to women! "Lad culture"! Modesty-bag these magazines now! Meanwhile these censored magazines sit next to uncovered gossip rags consumed almost entirely by women, that actively demean female celebrities on their covers and in their pages for having a less-than-conventional appearance. Not a peep about covering those up or removing them from sale.
Men are constantly told off for "objectifying" women, a meaningless term that usually tends to mean "looking at them, how dare they", while feminist writers usually defend their ogling of male celebrities.
The constantly moving goalposts of where it is and isn't acceptable to speak to a woman you like, seemingly being decided on behalf of all women by the most neurotic and mean-spirited of women (who usually happen to be feminist), e.g.:
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/pokemon-go-not-invitation-talk-street/
And without wishing to rehash an old topic excessively, the rationalisation of sheer, irrational terror of men simply being around you in public and calling it empowerment. The stoking of rape hysteria to fever pitch, while claiming to be sex-positive!
If anything, feminists seem to prefer completely unconventionally masculine men dictating to the vast majority of conventionally masculine men how masculinity should be.
E.g.:
Grayson Perry is wrong – men need masculine heroes like Bear Grylls
It's time to do away with the concept of 'manhood' altogether | Zach Stafford
Perry and Stafford are welcome to express themselves any way they like, but the fact remains that conventional masculinity isn't toxic to the point where it needs to be radically overhauled. It simply needs a little tweaking, and people - especially feminists - need to start listening more and judging less. Someone like Perry, a crossdressing potter and performer, simply isn't representative of how the vast majority of men live their lives. I have no idea why he is constantly held up as some kind of expert on the matter, but he was at a feminist-run festival in London on masculinity some years back.
Men do not need to remove themselves from the expectations of conventional masculinity only to be imprisoned by the expectations feminists have for their idea of what masculinity should be.
I have to say I tend to agree with most of what you say here. My wife is friends with people who will post on FB about how terrible it is that certain body types are seen as more attractive and how men need to learn how to appreciate other types while then posting the abs of various celebrities asking which one is best.
You asked for a citation. I gave it to you.so nothing original then
What does this have to do with Gamergate being about rape advocacy?
Do you demand women denounce something every time a woman does something criminal or wrong?
And just to let you know, every time in this thread it's been pointed out that anti-GG doesn't like being treated by the worst of its group any more than GG does, it's been ignored. We've had plenty of bogus accusations of "rape advocacy" (lol) too.
Maybe you will be the exception to that rule.
I asked for a citation that would actually justify that sort of generalisation, but evidently you don't have one.You asked for a citation. I gave it to you.
Good day, madam.
yeah, they got called whiners when they complained about the crapshoot that was No Man's Sky
so.....yeah, this is rubbish
even when they go after the "right" targets AGGs aren't happy
They went after AAA devs after being told they should have gone after them. And it's still not good enough.AFAIK, wrt to No Man's Sky, they didn't go after the relationship between the devs and the journalists. They went after the devs for over-promising and under-delivering. That's not the same thing at all.
As far as I can see, the only response to this perfectly legitimate criticism of GG's double standards is to point out how the GG crowd went after AAA devs for entirely different issues. That's not an answer. That's a dodge.
No. You asked for a citation.I asked for a citation that would actually justify that sort of generalisation, but evidently you don't have one.
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No. You asked for a citation.
Now you're moving the goal posts.
Whether or not YOU don't like the citation you asked for is irrelevant.implied in the suggestion that a citation is needed is that the citation actually, y'know, holds up
You posted a citation that implies that gamergate is fundamentally about "rape advocacy" (lol). It isn't. Or at least no more so than any unfair generalisation one may care to make about the opposing side.
But those generalisations don't fly when applied to them, so again, why should you be taken seriously here?
TIL citations may not be criticised. Who knewWhether or not YOU don't like the citation you asked for is irrelevant.
That's on you.
You asked, I provided. Now you cry foul. Bad form sir. Bad form.
I can't say I would stop criticising it altogether, but I would have a lot more respect for modern feminism if it was in any way consistent.
The problem here isn't so much the sexually repressive messages, bad enough though they are, it's the sheer naked hypocrisy that really angers me. There are reason why fewer and fewer people are listening to them - to be ordered around and preached at on equality by people who can't keep their standards straight for two minutes - and when challenged on it, they accuse their critics of being the bigots?!
It's too much, and it has to end.
Feminism does seem to draw an overwhelming amount of mediocrity.I think they ran out of targets, to be honest. Well, ran out of targets in the US anyway. If they took aim at the Middle East they might find a bunch. They also seemed to stop being about people having equal opportunities at things and became about everybody having the same result. Not everybody can come in first.
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