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What does George Lucas know and when did he know it?

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http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon6.htm


Above is the rendition of the movie's death star, the saturn moon Iapedus, and little metallic balls found in the earth in South Africa.




I just saw the new Indiana Jones movie on Sunday and the plot was conspicuously familiar:

An archeological find proves extraterrestrial life, the artifact has special properties that can influence the mind of humans and animals, it is returned to an electomagnetic portal where an "alien" leaves the planet through the portal in it's "space-craft", the "alien" is said to be an interdimensional, supernatural being referred to as a god in the movie.



Is humanity being prepared for life to imitate art???

If archeological evidence "purportedly" from "aliens" is found following a great earthquake, then the end times delusion will be in full swing.


PS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lucas

"Lucas was born and raised in a strongly Methodist family. After inserting religious themes into Star Wars he would eventually come to identify strongly with the Eastern religious philosophies he studied and incorporated into his movies, which were a major inspiration for "the Force." Lucas eventually came to state that his religion was "Buddhist Methodist.""

"Lucas" means "light". (see Freemason thread for greater understanding in regards to Lucifer, the occult, fallen angel's incomplete knowledge, eastern religious philosophies, and crop circles)
 
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I read the whole thing and found not a single reference to Otherkin . . .

I am disappointed.

But look! Here is another amazing coincidence, the food of the antedeluvians:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Walnuts02.jpg

tee hee

Just wait, they'll parade something out on tv that they have allegedly discovered that supposedly makes the Bible (and all religions) archaic and the majority of the people around at the time will fall for it because they would rather believe the lie that is before their eyes than the truth that takes faith to see.



2Th 2:9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,
2Th 2:10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
2Th 2:11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
2Th 2:12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.


It's already begun.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/world/europe/26london.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/14/news/vat.php
 
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I love this line:
If that is true, then its very name – “Iapetus” … the father of Prometheus, the “maker of Mankind” --- is eerie foreshadowing of all we might one day confirm ….

Never mind the fact that the moon was named and discovered in 1671, but that ridge thing wasn't discovered until 2004, we're going to extrapolated like a jack rabbit and claim the name of a hunk of rock is proof that aliens put it there to create life on Earth.
 
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I love this line:
If that is true, then its very name – “Iapetus” … the father of Prometheus, the “maker of Mankind” --- is eerie foreshadowing of all we might one day confirm ….

Never mind the fact that the moon was named and discovered in 1671, but that ridge thing wasn't discovered until 2004, we're going to extrapolated like a jack rabbit and claim the name of a hunk of rock is proof that aliens put it there to create life on Earth.

No, you missed the point.
IF that is what Iapetus means, then it was named that way for a reason. It is an unusual "moon" and might even be created...not "rock".
There are no aliens. There are angels, humans and animals. The Nephilim were children of fallen angels and women....a hybrid of sorts. It's happening again. Fallen angels appear to be creating "hybrids" for the purpose of deceiving mankind.

Think I'm nuts? Read what happened in the Bible and in Enoch 1 which was never removed from the Bible in Ethiopia. The book of Jude quotes directly from Enoch 1.


[Chapter 6]
1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto 2 them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men 3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not 4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations 5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves 6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn 7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, 8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.
[Chapter 7]
1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms 2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they 3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed 4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against 5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and 6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
[Chapter 8] 1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all 2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they 3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .



http://www.ccel.org/c/charles/otpseudepig/enoch/ENOCH_1.HTM
 
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There are no aliens. There are angels, humans and animals.

No one knows that for sure. The Bible is concerned with life on Earth, it never says one way or another whether there's other life in the universe. If I was an alien I'd probably avoid Earth for a long time time because of people like you. They could land and give us the cure for cancer and there would still be people trying to kill them.
 
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There are no aliens. There are no "extraterrestrial brothers".

Trust in God and in His word or you will be deceived.

You probably don't believe in angels or the fact that they created a "hybrid" with women called the Nephilim. Ever stop to think about why alleged "alien abductions" involve messing around with reproductive parts???



[There is already a cure for cancer. It cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment]
 
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There are no aliens. There are no "extraterrestrial brothers".

Where's your proof? It's no sillier to believe in aliens than it is to believe in 'Nephilim'. Neither belief is grounded in overwhelming proof.

You probably don't believe in angels or the fact that they created a "hybrid" with women called the Nephilim. Ever stop to think about why alleged "alien abductions" involve messing around with reproductive parts???

I have no particular belief about angels. I've never seen one.

Actually, I have stopped to think about the sexual aspects of alien abduction. People used to believe incubi/succubi did the same thing, and also fae folk. It could be some unexplored aspect of human psychology that's behind all of it.

[There is already a cure for cancer. It cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment]

Tell that to all the people in chemotherapy. Not much of a cure if it can't actually help you.
 
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Where's your proof? It's no sillier to believe in aliens than it is to believe in 'Nephilim'. Neither belief is grounded in overwhelming proof.

Here is proof:

Gen 6:4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.


Num 13:33We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them."


It is true because the Bible says it's true.


I have no particular belief about angels. I've never seen one.

Do you only believe in what you see? Will you only believe in God if you can see Him? so much for faith...




Actually, I have stopped to think about the sexual aspects of alien abduction. People used to believe incubi/succubi did the same thing, and also fae folk. It could be some unexplored aspect of human psychology that's behind all of it.

The psychological explanations are the world's way of trying to explain things they don't understand. They cannot prove that demons and seducing spirits exist scientifically (with their own eyes), so they offer psychological disorders as the answer.


Tell that to all the people in chemotherapy. Not much of a cure if it can't actually help you.

You have to dig around in alternative medicines. People have to go to Mexico or another country to get oxygen therapy for cancer.
 
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It is true because the Bible says it's true.

Only if you accept the bible is inerrant, which I don't.

Do you only believe in what you see? Will you only believe in God if you can see Him? so much for faith...

I never said I had much faith. Even conceding something is possible with no evidence is being charitable.

The psychological explanations are the world's way of trying to explain things they don't understand. They cannot prove that demons and seducing spirits exist scientifically (with their own eyes), so they offer psychological disorders as the answer.

Ever heard of sleep paralysis? Just because you see something there doesn't necessarily mean it IS there.

You have to dig around in alternative medicines. People have to go to Mexico or another country to get oxygen therapy for cancer.

I'll believe in alternative medicine when it's been proven to work by science. People also go to Mexico for so-called 'psychic surgery' which has been proven to be a hoax over and over. The reason people go to other countries for such treatments has to do with the fact that practicing medicine without a license is illegal in most of the west.
 
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There are no aliens. There are no "extraterrestrial brothers".

Trust in God and in His word or you will be deceived.
Given that God's Word is agnostic on the subject we can be both agnostic on the subject AND trust in God's Word.
You probably don't believe in angels or the fact that they created a "hybrid" with women called the Nephilim. Ever stop to think about why alleged "alien abductions" involve messing around with reproductive parts???



[There is already a cure for cancer. It cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment]
Yeah.

http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20080529.gif
 
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"Lucas was born and raised in a strongly Methodist family. After inserting religious themes into Star Wars he would eventually come to identify strongly with the Eastern religious philosophies he studied and incorporated into his movies, which were a major inspiration for "the Force." Lucas eventually came to state that his religion was "Buddhist Methodist.""

"Lucas" means "light". (see Freemason thread for greater understanding in regards to Lucifer, the occult, fallen angel's incomplete knowledge, eastern religious philosophies, and crop circles)
Interesting. His movies appear to be similar to the Jewish/Hebrew [also Eastern philosophies] book of revelation in a lot of ways. I may have to do up Revelation like that :)

Revelation 12:7 And became battle in the heaven the Michael [The Force] and the messengers [Jedi Knights] of Him do battle with the dragon and the dragon [The Emperor] battles and the messengers [Empire] of him 8 and not he is strong neither place was found of them still in the heaven.

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7164949&page=2
 
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Only if you accept the bible is inerrant, which I don't.

Well, that actually speaks volumes.


I never said I had much faith. Even conceding something is possible with no evidence is being charitable.

So, you believe in only what you can see?



Ever heard of sleep paralysis? Just because you see something there doesn't necessarily mean it IS there.

Yes, I was a psych major too.




I'll believe in alternative medicine when it's been proven to work by science. People also go to Mexico for so-called 'psychic surgery' which has been proven to be a hoax over and over. The reason people go to other countries for such treatments has to do with the fact that practicing medicine without a license is illegal in most of the west.

I don't know anything about psychic surgery but I do know that there are alternatives to drugs and surgery that is taught in our med schools.
 
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Well, that actually speaks volumes.

The bible says bats are a type of bird (when in fact they're rodents), that hares chew the cud (they don't), that some insects have four legs (an insect by definition has six legs), that the Hebrews destroyed the city of Ai (it was abandoned before they ever entered the area), and that the Jews were in captivity in Egypt (an Israeli scientist spent ten years looking for evidence and the most he found was a scroll talking about a small slave revolt). Beyond that it says the earth stopped spinning at one point (which would destroy all life on earth), and that there was a worldwide flood (which science has proven to be false). It says a wide variety of things that have either been proven inaccurate by science, or can't be proven either way. I'm not sure how you can claim it's inerrant when large portions of it can't be proven either true or false by evidence.

Just because some it has been proven accurate doesn't mean it all has.

It's only inerrant if you stick your fingers in your ears and ignore all of the clear errors, and then additionally ignore all the things which may have happened but there's no way of proving.

So, you believe in only what you can see?

I need something to grasp, yes. At least some hint. I'm not just going to take other people's word for it. Believing everything you're told is inadvisable at best. In the end you're left turning to and fro because of internet conspiracy theories like you yourself are.

I don't know anything about psychic surgery but I do know that there are alternatives to drugs and surgery that is taught in our med schools.

Psychic surgery is when someone removes a tumor using only their hands or a dull knife or whatever. It's a sleight of hand trick, they're actually concealing a piece of animal viscera or whatever, which they claim is the tumor they just removed.

I don't believe in alternative medicine as it is currently defined, which is treatments outside the realm of mainstream medicine. Once it's been verified to work by scientists, then it ceases to become alternative medicine and becomes a regular old-fashioned treatment method. I'm not going to stake my health on something that hasn't been proven to work.
 
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Would it bother anyone if I used bits of the Lucas article and this passage of Revelation in my Siggy.
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Revelation 12:7 And became battle in the heaven the Michael [The Force] and the messengers [Jedi Knights] of Him do battle with the dragon and the dragon [The Emperor] battles and the messengers [Empire] of him 8 and not he is strong neither place was found of them still in the heaven.

"Lucas was born and raised in a strongly Methodist family. After inserting religious themes into Star Wars he would eventually come to identify strongly with the Eastern religious philosophies he studied and incorporated into his movies,
 
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The bible says bats are a type of bird (when in fact they're rodents

This is the only quote I could find on bats:

Isa 2:20In that day men will throw away to the rodents and bats their idols of silver and idols of gold, which they made to worship.


Where does the Bible say that bats are birds?


), that hares chew the cud (they don't),

Rabbits eat leaves, grass...I don't know if they regurgitate it or not.




that some insects have four legs (an insect by definition has six legs), that the Hebrews destroyed the city of Ai (it was abandoned before they ever entered the area), and that the Jews were in captivity in Egypt (an Israeli scientist spent ten years looking for evidence and the most he found was a scroll talking about a small slave revolt). Beyond that it says the earth stopped spinning at one point (which would destroy all life on earth), and that there was a worldwide flood (which science has proven to be false). It says a wide variety of things that have either been proven inaccurate by science, or can't be proven either way. I'm not sure how you can claim it's inerrant when large portions of it can't be proven either true or false by evidence.

You seem to be regurgitating what you've learned on the internet as "proof" that the Bible is not true.
There's a lot more than this that proves that it is true...not to mention the Holy Spirit...which leaves absolutely no room for doubt.





I need something to grasp, yes. At least some hint. I'm not just going to take other people's word for it. Believing everything you're told is inadvisable at best. In the end you're left turning to and fro because of internet conspiracy theories like you yourself are.

Such as?

You know the Bible laid out some clear indicators of what is coming. It's reasonable to think that when these things are beginning to come true that we will see them starting to happen.
 
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There are no aliens.

The Church use to believe in geocentrism as well. Look what happened to Galileo...

Seriously...
Do you have any idea the Vastness of the Universe? do you know how small just our solar system is in the Milky Way Galaxy? what to speak of the billions of galaxies. And yet you can dogmatically make a claim that there is no extraterrestrial life anywhere in the entire Universe. You'd have to be omniscient and omnipresent to make such a claim....

fyi: the Bible does not state there are no other inhabitated worlds or "created beings" besides people on the 3rd rock from our sun. Infact there are Jewish mystical texts which speak of other inhabitated worlds.

There are likely millions of inhabitated worlds, with souls living throughout the Universe.... or that's an awful lot of empty space out there.
 
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This is the only quote I could find on bats:

Isa 2:20In that day men will throw away to the rodents and bats their idols of silver and idols of gold, which they made to worship.
Perhaps he was prophecying baseball bats in the future :)

Genesis 9:33 Every of moving-thing/07431 remes which he life to ye he is becoming for food as greens herbage I give to ye all.

Romans 14:14 I have known and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing contaminating thru himself, except to the one accounting any being-unclean to be, to that one being-unclean.
 
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The Church use to believe in geocentrism as well. Look what happened to Galileo...

Seriously...
Do you have any idea the Vastness of the Universe? do you know how small just our solar system is in the Milky Way Galaxy? what to speak of the billions of galaxies. And yet you can dogmatically make a claim that there is no extraterrestrial life anywhere in the entire Universe. You'd have to be omniscient and omnipresent to make such a claim....

fyi: the Bible does not state there are no other inhabitated worlds or "created beings" besides people on the 3rd rock from our sun. Infact there are Jewish mystical texts which speak of other inhabitated worlds.

There are likely millions of inhabitated worlds, with souls living throughout the Universe.... or that's an awful lot of empty space out there.

Freemason, eh?

Your words and your avatar give you away.

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Then you are probably aware of the same things George Lucas is aware of. I bet you guys are thrilled with this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,373302,00.html

...which is not dissimilar from methods of the "interdimensional being" in Lucas' latest Indiana Jones story.


I'm also aware that the knowledge you seek is the incomplete knowledge that the fallen angels taught mankind, pre-flood.

Check this out:

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.co...e_refused.html


At the link they reference a writing by Mather called “Kabbalah Unveiled” and here is the quote:

"The Kabbalah was first taught by God himself to a select company of angels, who formed a theosophic school in Paradise. After the Fall the angels most graciously communicated this heavenly doctrine to the disobedient child of earth, to furnish the protoplasts with the means of returning to their pristine nobility and felicity. From Adam it passed over to Noah, and then to Abraham, the friend of God, who emigrated with it to Egypt, where the patriarch allowed a portion of this mysterious doctrine to ooze out. It was in this way that the Egyptians obtained some knowledge of it, and the other Eastern nations could introduce it into their philosophical systems…..”

Is it any wonder that they study ancient Egypt, Eastern religions, the Kaballah and the occult? They are trying to get back the "wisdom" that the fallen angels taught mankind.


Here is the author’s (32 degree Freemason named Peters) conclusion:

“Whatever the original provenance and impetus of Freemasonry, it seems clear that encoded within the rituals is a profound doctrine of spiritual illumination or Gnosis. With the application of tools such as gematria, isopsophy, temurah and notariqon, a wealth of otherwise hidden wisdom begins to reveal itself. Applying the lamp of focused consciousness on these symbols, the treasure chest opens.

Symbols may be thought of as a living, dynamic centers of energy. By focusing on them and taking them into deep contemplation, this energy is unlocked from within, revealing the Royal Art as a series of signposts in consciousness. By following these signs into meditation, we may eventually come away with a further, profounder understanding of ourselves and our position in the universe.”
 
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