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The Little Horn is never SATAN.
The same facts in the Bible that the Reformers declared and sacrificed their lives for.By FACTS in the bible. No one buys this stuff man. Nothing is even close to being "Prophetic" in this thinking.
The prophecy in Daniel 7:25 states that the little horn power will think to change the times and laws. Some believe that this refers to the papacy changing and combining Ten Commandments and changing the Sabbath day from Saturday to Sunday which they take credit for.
What do you think Daniel intended by this prophecy?
the matter at hand is a change of the God's law(s), for example, the law of God says that the religious worshipers should love their neighbors/cohabitants, but there have been religious worshipers professing selfish creeds/religions...
Blessings
I think it is in regards to the change of the Ten Commandments by the RCC and the change of the Sabbath Day.
I always research what people say...
Daniel 7:25 uses the word times or time '4 times' in V. 25.
zĕman (Aramaic) One time.
'iddan 3 times.
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times (zĕman) and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time (iddan) and times('iddan) and the dividing of time(`iddan).
Interesting in the interlinear...
...and he is meaning to alter of stated (times) and edict and they shall be granted in his hand unto season and seasons and distribution of seasons.
This is one of those verses that takes hours to research for me to get an understanding of it. It takes time.
One thing I did notice. STATED (times) ???
It seems like he is changing something already in effect, something repetitious. I think this is definetely Islamic and could be him changing the times and direction Muslim's and everyone in the region will be required to worship ONLY WITHIN his limited Mid-East empire including Christians and every other religion within his empire.
Why will people worship him?
Because he takes out a good portion of Israel, especially the old city.
Hello. Nice to meet you as well. The pope has both political temporal power as head of the Vatican and spiritual power as leader of the church. The Vatican is an independent state.
I believe the false prophet is Islam and is separate from the first and second beasts of Revelation.
The pope is referred to as the most holy father which is shear blasphemy and he is worshiped like a god. Now a Jesuit holds that office. I believe the office of pope is the office of antichrist.
Hi CDF47,
Yes the Pope is over the Vatican and their `small state,` however you would have to show how he is controlling the rest of the world politically.
Personally I believe if you switch your choices then we would be close. Islam, Political, and the False Prophet over the Pope (& other religions) - the Religious & Economic spheres.
regards, Marilyn.
Hi Marilyn!
If the 4th Kingdom of Daniel suffered an apparent Political head wound around 500 AD,
and metamorphized into a WORLD WIDE Religious kingdom
(diverse from the first three Political kingdoms),
would this satisfy you request to show how he is controlling the rest of the world?
You just do not quite grasp these scriptures correctly brother. You seem to be a little to quick to jump in head first without studying. Firstly, we know the Little Horn is a MAN via many Scriptures. Rev. 13 says its the Number of A MAN. Daniel 7 and 8 shows you its a MAN because he has EYES and a MOUTH that speaks Blasphemies. As per the Scriptures you cited Daniel 8:10 is speaking about the High Priests of Israel where the same word is used to describe them in various places in the Old Testament. Gabriel the Angel remember Interprets everything that Daniel saw in chapter 8 !! Look at the COMPARISON VERSES a interpreted by the Angel Gabriel.How many entities are credited with casting Angels OUT OF Heaven?
1, 3, 12?
Your reasoning is NOT Scriptural.
According TO YOU, the "Little Horn" and Satan ARE NOT THE SAME.
ACCORDING to Scripture, . . . . .the "Little Horn" and Satan are one and the same .
Daniel 8 (KJV)
9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it("LITTLE HORN") cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
Revelation 12 (KJV)
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns,(ROME/4th Beast) and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Your refusal of truth has your mind locked into an understanding that is ONLY PARTIALLY Scriptural.
No its not. I see you are into "Replacement Theology" and that will warp ones beliefs in total. All of those scriptures you cited, you have confused their meaning.Israel is the GROUP NAME used by Scripture to describe the OBEDIENT SEED of Abraham who CLAIM the PROMISE.
Israel is a "Spiritual" Group claiming the promise
Not a "physical kingdom or nation".
I noticed you labeled my post as "funny".
I thank you for the blessing my brother!
Luke 6 (KJV)
22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
I explained this in the OTHER POST ABOVE. No use rehashing.If we wish to understand how Satan and a MAN described in Daniel as the "Little King" can be one and the same, it is necessary to move from the realm of flesh, and INTO the realm of SPIRIT.
Seeing the truth is a simple as how one allows themselves to look at things.You just do not quite grasp these scriptures correctly brother. You seem to be a little to quick to jump in head first without studying. Firstly, we know the Little Horn is a MAN via many Scriptures. Rev. 13 says its the Number of A MAN. Daniel 7 and 8 shows you its a MAN because he has EYES and a MOUTH that speaks Blasphemies. As per the Scriptures you cited Daniel 8:10 is speaking about the High Priests of Israel where the same word is used to describe them in various places in the Old Testament. Gabriel the Angel remember Interprets everything that Daniel saw in chapter 8 !! Look at the COMPARISON VERSES a interpreted by the Angel Gabriel.
Daniel 8:10 And it waxed great,(1) even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them (2).
11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down (3).
24 And his power shall be mighty,(1) but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people (2).
25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many3) he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(10) The host of heaven.—Probably meaning the stars, as Jeremiah 33:22, but in a metaphorical sense indicating the people of Israel. (Comp. Exodus 7:4; Numbers 24:17.)
Benson Commentary Daniel 8:10-11.
And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven — By the host of heaven, seems to be here meant the Jewish priesthood, so called from their continual attendance on God’s service in the temple, as the angels do in heaven. The word צבא, here rendered host, is applied to the attendants in the sanctuary, Exodus 38:8;
Numbers 4:23. And it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground — Persons of principal dignity and high offices are often called stars in the Scriptures. In Isaiah 24:21, The host of the high ones that are on high, is explained by Vitringa of the Jewish rulers and people: see Daniel 12:3, and Revelation 1:20, where the angels, or governors of the church, are called stars.
Pulpit Commentary Verse 10.
And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. The reading of the LXX. is very different after the first clause, "And it was exalted to the stars of heaven, and it was shattered to the earth by the stars, and by them trampled down." The verb תַּסֵּל (tappayl) translated "cast down," has been read as if it had been תֻּפַּל (tooppal). So too the last verb has evidently been read וַירְמְסוּהוּ (vayyir'msoohoo) instead of וַתִּרְמְסֵם (vattir'msaym), due to the resemblance which there was between yod and tan in the older script. Theodotion differs hardly less from the Massoretic, "And it was magnified to the power of heaven, and it fell to the earth from the power of heaven and from the stars, and they trode them down." The verb translated "fell" is evidently read with a vocalization different from both the Massoretic and the LXX The sense of Theodotion is more in accordance with the Septuagint than with the Massoretic. The Peshitta and the Vulgate agree with the Massoretic. The question of which reading is to be preferred can scarcely be settled without regarding the meaning of the terms here used. The crucial point is - What is the meaning of the "host of heaven"? The general consensus of interpreters is that THIS REFERS TO ISRAEL.
You mix and match verses without studying the context. Thus you are led to believe this is Satan when we can clearly see that Satan is not the BEAST in Rev. 20:10
Rev. 20:10 And the DEVIL (SATAN) that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the BEAST (A MAN) and the FALSE PROPHET (ANOTHER MAN) ARE (They are in Hell when Satan is cast into HELL), and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Ummmm, no I showed you why the Little Horn/BEAST can not be Satan, you just overlooked those facts it seems.Seeing the truth is a simple as how one allows themselves to look at things.
Your assumptions;
"You seem to be a little to quick to jump in head first without studying."
Are NOT based upon fact.
The general consensus of interpreters is that THIS REFERS TO ISRAEL.
You rely on human interpretation
big mistake.
If the whole world is deceived, and you listen to the world, so too will you be.
yes, the Ten Commandments are main laws of God - in fact, the third of the ten commandments says the religious worshipers should not use the faith for evil, selfish/self-interested or unclean purpose(s)...
Blessings
Hi CDF47,
Yes the Pope is over the Vatican and their `small state,` however you would have to show how he is controlling the rest of the world politically.
Personally I believe if you switch your choices then we would be close. Islam, Political, and the False Prophet over the Pope (& other religions) - the Religious & Economic spheres.
regards, Marilyn.
Sure he does. Next time I go to the knights to have a beer I'll let them know they're in bible prophecy.
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