what does a gay feeling person do

[Cristiano]

"Gay theology" is an attempt to subvert the Bible to one's own personal vendettas. It is not a legitimate religious concern!

So...what do you struggle with?

 

[Brother_Justin]

"Gay theology" is an attempt to subvert the Bible to one's own personal vendettas. It is not a legitimate religious concern!

This comment is rude. Infact I find it funny that you dont even try to refute you just call it un legitimate. Make a counter argument. Make a proposal as to why it is non legitimate. All your doing is discounting hundreds of queer scholars who spend their lives faithfully following the same Christ as you and you throw them to the side. Many queer Bibilical scholars have lost their lives for their work and deserve just as much of a look as your Calvin does.

All theology deserves a look and deserves to be respected even if you dont agree with it or not.

That shield your carrying around says LOVE on I suggest you take your own advice.



Love brother ~Justin~ <><

 

[lovemeorhateme]

This comment is rude. Infact I find it funny that you dont even try to refute you just call it un legitimate. Make a counter argument. Make a proposal as to why it is non legitimate. All your doing is discounting hundreds of queer scholars who spend their lives faithfully following the same Christ as you and you throw them to the side. Many queer Bibilical scholars have lost their lives for their work and deserve just as much of a look as your Calvin does.

All theology deserves a look and deserves to be respected even if you dont agree with it or not.

That shield your carrying around says LOVE on I suggest you take your own advice.

Love brother ~Justin~ <><

I am someone who is struggling with homosexuality. I can honestly say that I do believe that the Bible says homosexuality is a sin. I believe that anyone trying to say otherwise is simply trying to justify their sin.

 

[Brother_Justin]

I have to faithfully disagree with you on that. I respect you for believing how you believe but I must warn you that many people who feel it is a sin have shoved thousands of people out of the light of the Lord and have cast stones that they are simply not authorized to throw.

If you wish to discuss why I believe the way I do I would love to explain to you in a PM this forum is not a form for argument it is a place for advice. And no im not trying to justfiy MY sin because I have a girlfriend of whom im very much living a Christ like life with and so I must say that your statment that any one who says that it isnt a sin is trying to justify their sin I have to say no to that. Many different opinions and that is wonderful. God bless you for believing how you do. God bless you.



Love brother ~Justin~ <><

 

[Cristiano]

The first thing a homosexual needs to do is keep quiet about it, except to people who can accept them. I accept you, as you are God's creation. God created you, not to be perfect, but to be human. God expects you to do the human thing, not the Divine. The Divine things are up to God. It is a good starting point to realize having homosexual sex is not a good idea, morally.

It is also important to accept yourself the way you are. You cannot get beyond homosexuality be either rejecting it, or embracing it. You cannot hate your own sexuality, but you cannot love it either. Acceptance is the key. You are homosexual, now. If you are depressed, it is not because you cannot find someone to have sex with. It is because you cannot find someone to trust. People want to be close because they wish to share a trust relationship. They are looking for a bonding of hearts, which transcends words. They are looking for someone who will reflect back to them a very good image of themselves.

Homosexual males are looking for this affirmation from a masculine form. Heterosexual males are looking for this affirmation from a female form. Males will affirm you more if you don't lust after them, or appear homosexual. Most men don't like it when someone wants to sodomize them, even very attractive men. You will get much further by treating men with decency and respect.

Homosexuality is caused by a familiar demon spirit. This spirit knows things about you, and that you didn't receive the male affirmation you needed as a boy. The spirit tricks you into thinking that having sex with men will get you the affirmation you have always wanted. It is a very slick and well done deceit. You need help to undo it. The only thing that really works is confession at a Catholic Church. When you confess your homosexual lust, sex, masturbation, all of which are mortal sins, and receive absolution, after a while the demons have no more power. You just keep confessing the same sins over and over.

You might want to do this once per week. You should also receive Holy Eucharist at Catholic Mass on Sunday, immediately after confession on Saturday. It only takes six months to become Catholic, and this is the only means I am aware of for a homosexual to unravel the deceit done by the familiar spirit.

I have had familiar spirits oppressing me. It's horrible. You whole life becomes based on justifying all you sins. Then, one day, suddenly, you are finished. You have been struck down beyond repair. This is the fate of hardened sodomites, masturbaters, people who have sex with animals or children, fornicators, and aldulterers. They seem ok one day, and no one can figure out why God lets them live. The end is always near for them, and they fear the sword on every side. They know not when, but their final hour comes when they least expect it.

If you are faithful to confess your sins to another person, like the Bible tells you to, with contrite heart, making a resolution to never commit the same sin again, and resisting as hard as you can every time that familiar spirit tries to deceive you into an [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], with lust involved; then confessing again in the same way, to another person (I advise a Catholic Priest, since you really can't trust anyone else all the way.), hating your sin, but embracing what God truly made you to be, a natural heterosexual male, you will become one.

I know it is difficult for you not to lust. If you can just get to confession, and stop from lusting for overnight, you can go to Mass and receive Jesus. You cannot, however, receive Jesus with mortal sin on your soul. There are even Saturday Masses, so you might only have to make it for a few hours. The critical thing is that you receive sacramental confession, and then don't commit any mortal sins before you go to communion. There is also a rite of Catholic initiation, during which you cannot receive communion.

If you keep confessing your lust, sex, and masturbation (which is a form of sodomy), and say this prayer:

In Jesus Name I bind the familiar spirit of perversion, and its deceit of homosexuality, and I cast it out in Jesus Name. I seal the door to the underworld from whence it came to me. I seal the door with The Precious Blood of Jesus, permanently.

I invite The Holy Spirit of Jesus to dwell in place of what was there, shining light on my deceit. Dear Holy Spirit, please enter my soul, and enlighten my mind with the sins I ought to confess. Grant me the Grace to confess them fully, humbly, and with contrite heart. Help me firmly resolve never to commit them again. Oh Blessed virgin, Mother of my Redeemer, mirror of innocence and sanctity and refuge of penitent sinners, intercede for me, that I may obtain the Grace to make a good confession. All you blessed Angels and Saints of God, pray for me, a sinner, that I may repent from my sinful ways and be forever united with you.

Amen

Then, confess every sin you can think of. Confessing directly to God does yield forgiveness from God, but if you are enslaved to patterns of intentional sin, this type of confession will not free you from the slavery. In this case, for compulsive lust for example, when you confess it to another person it takes away the power of the demon that causes lust. Pretty soon the demon gets so fed up with your confessing every time that it tells you to take you holy life and stick it. Then the evil spirit leaves you forever.

How about "becoming" a Christian... It takes no confirmation and definitely doesn't take six months. The only true confession you need is through Christ and your brothers and sisters in Christ, as only Christ and Christ alone may forgive trespasses.

 

[Cristiano]

I have to faithfully disagree with you on that. I respect you for believing how you believe but I must warn you that many people who feel it is a sin have shoved thousands of people out of the light of the Lord and have cast stones that they are simply not authorized to throw.

If you wish to discuss why I believe the way I do I would love to explain to you in a PM this forum is not a form for argument it is a place for advice. And no im not trying to justfiy MY sin because I have a girlfriend of whom im very much living a Christ like life with and so I must say that your statment that any one who says that it isnt a sin is trying to justify their sin I have to say no to that. Many different opinions and that is wonderful. God bless you for believing how you do. God bless you.



Love brother ~Justin~ <><

I've talked to others about this issue of homosexuality not being a sin and have not been at all convinced with their "research" and observations. Could you PM me so we can get a dialogue going. I am a Christian guy who struggles with homosexual attraction and believes that being sexual with another man is wrong simply because of original design. I would like to talk with you though.