What do you think????

[white dove]

Hello White dove,

I wasn't quite sure, what exactly is bothering you?

Blessings, Susana

Well...as I'd mentioned earlier, I'd been a little stressed over this issue and whether or not I'd actually done this before. I hadn't fully explained myself, so it does not surprise me that you were unclear about what was bothering me..sorry . Thing is, in my days of confusion (about God, my life, etc etc. ), I'd gone off and questioned God's holiness. In my emotional pain, I'd questioned the god I'd been brought up to believe in; in that, I wondered if God was indeed just a god of destruction and not solely creation. Another thing is that, in one of my classes in college, the question had been brought up (as it was a philosophy class), that if god had created everything (including evil), then wouldn't that make god evil? I'd repeated this question to my mom (for the sake of continuing a healthy, level dialogue ~as half of the students in my class were either atheist or agnostic) and needless to say, she was not happy at all with that question. I think, if I recall correctly, she mentioned the 'b' word ~blasphemy. I wasn't worried then about it, but when this issue was raised by someone recently, I began to worry b/c...well, it is something to worry about. But then I have to remember such verses as: Romans 8:35-39, Mt 19:26 & Eph. 6:12.
Truth is, the enemy would love for me to go back to the way I was...and in bringing up these old issues, he is trying to make me think that what I have done for God's sake thus far is lost..but I know that is a lie, as satan is nothing but a liar and deceiver. I see how the enemy has been trying to get me back into old habits but I usually slough it off...but with this issue, it's like he does not want to see me progress in my spiritual walk b/c well, he doesn't want to see God's ppl grow. In any case, though I appreciate everyone's posts in here. thank you & God bless you all

 

[Endure2]

uhm... this may not be important to anyone but the reason Jesus said that you blaspheming the son could be forgiven but not the blaspheming of the holyspirit is this,if anyone cares to know,
the reason blaspheming the Son, and blaspheming the Spirit are diffrent, one can be forgiven and one cant, is this.



it didnt take as much enmity with God to refuse the Son as it did to refuse the Spirit. ILL PROVE THAT IN A MINUTE.

Jesus SAID... that he could do nothing of himself... knew nothing of himself, and all he knew and did came from his father.

Jesus did not have the ability to prove who he was BY HIMSELF, becuase Jesus did not walk in a power of his own, it came through the anointing of the Spirit, not himself. he gave up his own power, he became POOR so we could be made rich, he took on flesh, and the bible says in 2 timothy i believe, that he had to wait till a DUE time to be testified of.
the pharisees could have refused the Son by himself without being completely hateful to God becuase Jesus did not have the power to prove who he was by himself.

but when Jesus began to walk in the power of the SPIRIT it became abundantly obvious who Jesus was, that he was most certainly God, and to refuse him then, was not just to refuse Jesus but the Spirit also, and thats when they blasphemed the Spirit, and them doing this, was the proof of the condition of their heart that would never allow God a place, not even to forgive them, and thats why they couldnt be forgiven.

To blaspheme the Son only took being skeptical, and it could be excused to a certain extent.
but to blaspheme the Spirit, (becuase of the demonstration and proof by power) took no less than a heart that was completely bent on refusing God at any and all costs.

and becuase Jesus knew this, he made the statement that to blaspheme him could be forgiven, but to blaspheme the spirit could not.

 

[Endure2]

i just thought someone might be enterested in knowing that.

white Dove,
well thats understandable, i know ive wondered the same things before. i remembering doing things in my ignorance that made me wonder whether or not God would forgive me. but no... blapshemy isnt any thing you do or say, its a rebellious continuos state of being from which words and actions come.

Godbless, its good that your mature in the Lord enough to not be swayed by those little rumors and theories that arent based on the bible.

 

[white dove]

I appreciate your post, endure2...thank you so much
it has been a long time since I have wept out of repentance (for me, anyway) & I feel that it is b/c of this issue that I have been kinda numbed in such a way~and this NEEDED attention when it first came about...but due to my procrastination of all things, this, unfortunatly, included, I have not spent adaquate time with the Savior & hadn't received His words on this matter. But, through this questioning, I have realized what I needed to do to find the answer to my question all along...:crosself:

 

[KleinerApfel]

white dove,

In that philosophy class, you were in an environment which was hostile to christianity, and at a vulnerable time of life when you had unanswered questions.

The questions theses people raised were about a hypothetical god, not the true living God who you know.
They asked out of ignorance, and probably more as an intellectual exercise, whereas you were genuinely seeking the truth.

You were drawn into an inappropriate discussion by their manner of questioning, but you have continued to seek and desire the truth, and have found Him.

The unforgiveable sin would render the one who commits it incapable of troubling themselves any further about your relationship with God, and certainly they would not repent, and that is why it is unforgiveable - they are beyond asking.

Therefore, you have not commited it.

Endure2 makes good points.

Blessings, Susana

 

[Endure2]

your welcome friend,
Godbless you.
seek the Lord.

 

[white dove]

thank you, once again, susana...

I found it terribly amusing that thatparticular class was not really one that I'd considered to be overly-anti-christian as my *ironically-enough* theology class, where me and a couple other girls were singled out and our faith was questioned by our proffessor *shrug* He seemingly went on the attack w/ us b/c we were so adamant about our faith. I was doing well at first w/ being open enough to evaluate differing religions objectively but when I'd come into a 'rough' patch w/ my own faith (just so happened to have taken place at this particular time in my life), he took my evaluations as being grossly-misguided and I ended up getting a shockingly-low grade for making a firm stand on what I believe and why. meh, that is nothing too surprising I guess *shrug* anyway...sorry for the rant

but thanks,guys