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You lost me here. Are you saying that our bodies are under the law but our spirit is under grace? If so, please state the biblical support.

Also, you said "in the Messiah our sins can be atoned for". I think the proper wording would be, "in the Messiah our sins are atoned for". That is the promise, therefore, it is absolute. :)

Rom 8:6 - To be controlled by flesh results in death; to be controlled by spirit results in life and peace. And so people become enemies of Gd when they are controlled by their human nature; for they do not obey God's law and in fact they cannot obey it. Those who obey their human nature cannot please God.

Rom 8:2 - For the law of the spirit, which brings us life in union with Messiah Yeshua, has set me free from the law of sin and death.

Rom 6:16 - Surely you know that you surrender yourselves as slaves to obey someone, you are in fact the slaves of the master you obey - either to sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which results in being put right with God.

what I meant by the quote of in Messiah is that we can have it but we have to choose to have it.
 
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