What do you think?

[Singin4Him]

OK I'm taking World Lit 1 this semester. We had our first test 2 weeks ago and it was multiple choice as well as true/false. Well we used scan trons and I didn't realize that she wanted us to answer the true/false on the scan tron, I didn't even know you could do true/false on scan trons because I hadn't had a test like that before. So I ended up filling in the blanks on the test but didn't put it on the scan tron.

So today my professor tells me to come up and talk to her, she tells me I didn't fill in the scan tron for that part so I needed to do that after class. Which was fine with me. So I met her upstairs where she told me to meet her and she told me to come into her next class and GET THIS...

She didn't have my test, she wanted me to RE-DO the true/false part! ALSO, instead of having me do it downstairs in the humanities office as everyone does when they re-take test, she made me sit in the front row of her class and re-take that section of the test (TWENTY QUESTIONS which is the difference between passing or not passing) while everyone behind me in her class was talking as loud as they could before class started.

I was so frustrated and angry, I tried asking her if I could just go take it downstairs in the humanities office and leave it there but she said "no that's OK, you can just take it here." Then I tried to tell her that it was hard for me to focus because all 30 of her students were talking and I couldn't hear myself think and she just totally blew that off.

So first off all where in the world is my original test? Second of all, why in the world did she sit me in her class to re-take that portion of my test? I know I did horrible because she was talking so loud everyone knew what I was doing and I was so embarrassed and I was so mad I couldn't even think to re-take it.

What do you guys think about this? Has this ever happened to you?

I went to the dean but she basically said she will email my professor but if she lost my test, what's done is done. I think that is ridiculous, I think they should let me re-take that portion in the humanities office in a more quiet environment. She said I could appeal my grade in the class if I feel this effected me then but why not take care of it now? An appeal doesn't even mean I would get it changed anyway.

 

[fishstix]

If you've already talked to the dean, there isn't a lot more that you can do.

To make yourself feel better, keep in mind that this is just one test. Chances are that it is only worth 10% or so of your total grade in the class. Even if you totally bombed it, you won't be losing that many marks overall.

 

[InTheGarden]

I am so sorry this happened to you! I'm sure it IS frustrating! So did she just throw away everyone's test paper right after the test before the grades came out? Our teachers collect the papers and then if we want to review our grades we can sit down with our own test paper we have written on as well as the scantron results. Of course, the answer on the scantron is the one that counts, but at least we would have the actual paper to show the teacher if a problem like that ever came up.

I guess if your teacher didn't have the paper she would have had to have you do it over to give you credit for the question, but not in front of a noisy class! I see no reason why she couldn't have had you do it in the office like you wanted to.

I have no suggestions for you other than, yes, appeal the grade later on if it did affect you...it may not do any good but at least maybe the department would be more aware of the issue and handle it differently in the future.

 

[seamonster]

Normally the original tests are reused and everything goes on the scantron, so that would explain why she didn't let you see the original test or give it back. It saves paper for the teacher.

I would just take the grade and be happy she didn't just fail you for the T/F portion since you didn't mark it on the scantron, but that's just me.

 

[awesome liver]

wait, so you filled in the multiple choice and then circled the answers on the question sheet?

...

 

[Mandrake]

Yeah, I think you're lucky that she let you do the T/F part at all. In my experience most profs don't cut much slack for not following test instructions, no matter what your excuse is.

 

[Singin4Him]

Yeah, I think you're lucky that she let you do the T/F part at all. In my experience most profs don't cut much slack for not following test instructions, no matter what your excuse is.

I don't think you understand, I DID the true/false part on my test which she interestingly enough did not have. It is not that I forgot to do the true/false part, I DID IT lol, I wrote the answers out on my test rather than filling in the scan tron.

Bluenovember- it is not true that normally original tests are refused. In all of my classes we see our tests. I missed the day she handed out the tests so others had seen their tests but she didn't not have mine just my scan tron and my essay question. I should have been able to see my test, that is in school policy. I attend a private Baptist college, I believe we have some different rules than state schools.

We're talking about 20 questions here which for me will mean the difference between either passing, barely passing, or completely failing. This is not my strong subject and I was already concerned that I did not do well. My GPA is VERY important because I have to get into the Masters program, I refuse to accept a low grade because my professor lost my test and decided to be to lazy to allow me to take the test downstairs in the Humanities department where we're supposed to make-up tests, she just didn't want to have to go all the way over there to pick it up.

 

[Matt.9:22]

I agree with whoever said you should be grateful she let you retake it since you didn't follow instructions. I know you said you did it on the test but didn't put it on the scantron, but only what's on the scantron counts. If you weren't sure where to put your answers, you should have asked. Professors are not required to give up make up tests, and I have many who refused to. I have never had an instructor let me retake a test because I didn't do something right. Her losing your test might have been a blessing from God allowing you another shot at the multi-choice so I say suck it up and quit whining. Yeah the middle of a noisy class is not the ideal choice to take a test but if you were truly prepared (or if you even really did the multi-choice the first time) all you were doing was re-picking your answers and putting them on the scantron and that's probably what your teacher was thinking. She's just repicking her answers right? Sounds like you were trying to take another whack at the test and she was just giving you a chance to fill in your answers. Can't really say that I blame the teacher.

 

[Singin4Him]

I agree with whoever said you should be grateful she let you retake it since you didn't follow instructions. I know you said you did it on the test but didn't put it on the scantron, but only what's on the scantron counts. If you weren't sure where to put your answers, you should have asked. Professors are not required to give up make up tests, and I have many who refused to. I have never had an instructor let me retake a test because I didn't do something right. Her losing your test might have been a blessing from God allowing you another shot at the multi-choice so I say suck it up and quit whining.

First of all I don't appreciate your rudeness. If you have a problem with my "whining" no one asked you to read this post nor post here.

Secondly I never asked for a second chance, she gives everyone like 24 chances lol. There is on girl in our class who hasn't even taken the test yet because she's "hasn't had the time to take it" and she gave another girl a second chance on our past 3 quizzes.

Yeah the middle of a noisy class is not the ideal choice to take a test but if you were truly prepared (or if you even really did the multi-choice the first time) all you were doing was re-picking your answers and putting them on the scantron and that's probably what your teacher was thinking. She's just repicking her answers right? Sounds like you were trying to take another whack at the test and she was just giving you a chance to fill in your answers. Can't really say that I blame the teacher.

No I wasn't just re-picking my answers. As I said this subject is NOT my strong point, I can hardly remember what we're reading now let alone what I read 4 and 5 weeks ago, there was no way I could remember what I put on those questions, they weren't simple questions. Have you taken World Lit yet? The test questions are quite in depth. We took this test weeks ago, I was in such a hurry to get out of that situation I couldn't not even focus to answer the questions.

This more a venting thread than anything else. In my personal experience with both secular and Christian colleges I have found this situation to be very unusual and unprofessionally handled. Because school policy says this situation should be handled differently I feel I should be allowed to re-take this test in the Humanities department since I did express before re-doing this section that I was uncomfortable taking it in that situation and was unable to focus.

 

[awesome liver]

yeah ... i'm gonna side with the teacher on this one.

 

[Matt.9:22]

First of all I don't appreciate your rudeness. If you have a problem with my "whining" no one asked you to read this post nor post here.

First of all, by posting and asking what do you think?, you asked me to read your post and post an answer so it looks like you have flunked another test. Secondly, my opinion is just that an opinion. Me feeling the way I feel doesn't affect your life so take a chill pill.

Have you taken World Lit yet? The test questions are quite in depth. We took this test weeks ago, I was in such a hurry to get out of that situation I couldn't not even focus to answer the questions.

Yes, I've taken world lit. I've also taken Intro. to LIt. I got an A. In fact, I'm an English major, so don't treat me like I don' know what I'm talking about. I kow exactly what the tests are like and I don't really feel bad for the unprepared. I was expressing sympathy for your situation but also showing you the other side of the situation and telling you to make the best of it.

 

[Singin4Him]

First of all, by posting and asking what do you think?, you asked me to read your post and post an answer so it looks like you have flunked another test. Secondly, my opinion is just that an opinion. Me feeling the way I feel doesn't affect your life so take a chill pill.

Do you even understand what respect is? I don't care that you disagree with me, that is your opinion but you are being seriously rude and disrespectful towards me when I have not done a single thing to you personally. If you treat people this way in in life you will not make it far, not to mention you are not reflecting the Lord by treating others this way either.

Yes, I've taken world lit. I've also taken Intro. to Lit. I got an A. In fact, I'm an English major, so don't treat me like I don' know what I'm talking about. I know exactly what the tests are like and I don't really feel bad for the unprepared. I was expressing sympathy for your situation but also showing you the other side of the situation and telling you to make the best of it.

I did not treat you as if you didn't know what you're talking about, my question was merely "have you ever taken a world lit class" nothing more, it wasn't a loaded question. If you have taken world lit then you know the tests are in depth, FOR ME it is hard. Just because someone does not do well on a test does not always mean they did not prepare, I find that quite rude as well that you automatically jump to that conclusion. This subject is obviously a breeze for you being that you are an English major, for me however this subject has ALWAYS been hard for various reasons. One of the biggest was I hardly had any English in middle and high school. I didn't even know what MLA was until I came to college. I prepared a great deal for this test but I am a horrible test taker and I am telling you, for me to have to remember that stuff 2 weeks later in that situation was impossible. I'm not asking for you to agree,

I am not trying to get you to agree with me but I am trying to get you to understand my point of view here. I bet it would be quite different if it happened to any of you.

 

[bliz]

Hmmmmm.....

You can't remember what you are reading right now, let alone what you were reading 4 or 5 weeks ago... you do not take tests well...you clearly had a poor education to have had so little English in Jr. High and High School... you did not follow directions on the test... you didn't even focus to the answers to the questions on the test, although your GPA is very i8mportant to you and you HAVE to go to grad school...and you are very easily offended when someone nicely says something you disagree with.

Darlin', are you sure you belong in college? - not to mention grad school...

No one has been rude to you. People have told you how they see things... if you don't like it, stop reading and stop posting.

 

[Singin4Him]

Hmmmmm.....

You can't remember what you are reading right now, let alone what you were reading 4 or 5 weeks ago... you do not take tests well...you clearly had a poor education to have had so little English in Jr. High and High School... you did not follow directions on the test... you didn't even focus to the answers to the questions on the test, although your GPA is very i8mportant to you and you HAVE to go to grad school...

Do you see what you just said to be a reflection of Christ?

Ok you nit picked everything I said in each post and added it up say what YOU wanted. You need to go back and re-read what I posted IN CONTEXT please. Here let me spell it out for you here:

You can't remember what you are reading right now,

WHERE DID I SAY THIS?

let alone what you were reading 4 or 5 weeks ago...

We're talking about World Lit, The Odyssey, The Iliad, Medea...etc. That is A LOT to remember let alone a lot to remember after 4 and 5 weeks. World Lit isn't my only class, I am a Psych major...A LOT of reading goes into my degree. I have all my tests in the same week therefore I have A LOT to remember. Not to mention school isn't all I do with my life either so there is a lot going on. Obviously if I knew I would have had to retake that part I would have studied and made sure I remembered that for sure, but when it comes to requirement classes like that it's like once the test is over I forget about it and move on to the next task at hand. I don't need this for life, I don't plan on recalling the Odyssey in Psych lol.

you do not take tests well...you clearly had a poor education to have had so little English in Jr. High and High School...

You're right I did have a poor education, I got my GED. MY mom tried to homeschool me through high school but some things got in the way and that did not turn out as well as it should have. So lets put it this way, I have had basically NO English, none whatsoever. I never read a single epic, I never wrote a single paper, I got into college by the skin of my teeth. I took the ACT THREE TIMES! Even after the third time I was a few points away from the minimum score so the dean decided to accept me on probation and required me to take a class for students on probation my first semester. So you're right I did have a poor education, it has been hard for me to college because most of the students are much more ahead than I am and I do struggle but I am trying to get through it and for the most part I make A's and B's but when it comes to things that I am just not good in I make C's.

you did not follow directions on the test... you didn't even focus to the answers to the questions on the test, although your GPA is very i8mportant to you and you HAVE to go to grad school...

When it comes to following directions, there weren't any. It did not say on the test to fill in on the scan tron it just asked true/false questions and had blanks to fill in the true/false. She told us to fill in those blanks and because I've never had a test where you fill in the true/false I didn't know you could do that. She showed me later that there was a very small T/F at the top of the scan tron which I have never seen before. That is how I messed up, I just didn't know. It wasn't explained anywhere or verbally explained. I assumed it was like every other test I've taken in my college experience but obviously I was wrong. I DID answer the questions on the test, I failed to answer them on the scan tron.

and you are very easily offended when someone nicely says something you disagree with.

I only have a problem with people who speak disrespectfully to me or anyone else on this forum. It's not nice to say "stop whining" or "take a chill pill". I have no problem with those who disagree with me in a respectful manor, obviously I haven't responded to those who have been nice in their responses.

Darlin', are you sure you belong in college? - not to mention grad school...

No one has been rude to you. People have told you how they see things... if you don't like it, stop reading and stop posting.

God has done so much to get in to this point and I am 100% positive that I am supposed to be in college, it is hard but I am doing the best I can with what I can. Thanks for the encouragement though, it's nice to be built up by fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.

 

[Shyguyelite]

Oh dear. Someone will burn for this ; )

Any way, academic misfortunes come and go.

Easy for me to say of course. Just like it is easy for me to say soldiers live and die in war.

 

[Airline]

Trouble is when you post things people assume what wasnt said so they can better understand someting. they will also assume that because they have never done what you did, as in made the error in not using the scantron then they think you are entirely to blame.
As you stated and I can see the teacher is to blame as they should always assume that the students have never done a test using a scantron and so explain before the test.
Chalk it down to experience, you will be wiser to it next time.
I think you are doing great things and God bless you. Pray you accomplish your goals.

 

[Mandrake]

I'm sorry, but if the instructions weren't clear then you should have asked the prof for clarification. People in university assume that either you'll get it or keep asking until you do. A friend of mine did a scantron sheet in pen once, and the machine didn't read his answers, so he came out with 0%. Sometimes it sucks, but ultimately you have to take responsibility for yourself and make sure that you know what's going on. If you don't, then you just have to work harder next time.

 

[awesome liver]

everyone else probably filled in the test form correctly. this thread might bring into light your reading comprehension skills as well.