What do you think about war?

[Maimay]

What do you think about war? Life is created by God so it must be decided by God. Who among those past and current leaders believe God decided through him or her? Moses was likely the one, though, and we can see fight progress through him. He needed to raise an arm for one's victory, and the other to depict the other's victory. If western countries follow the Bible, which leader really did what Moses had done? If Russia won't attack until God commands it to, what would happen? If no one in Ukraine attends war but just proudly live and die as long as it lasts, what would happen? If nowhere in the world manufactures weapons in order to defend, but would smile at the enemy when they are about to kill them, what would happen? Following the Spirit would take a lot of courage, though.

 

[public hermit]

What do you think about war? Life is created by God so it must be decided by God. Who among those past and current leaders believe God decided through him or her? Moses was likely the one, though, and we can see fight progress through him. He needed to raise an arm for one's victory, and the other to depict the other's victory. If western countries follow the Bible, which leader really did what Moses had done? If Russia won't attack until God commands it to, what would happen? If no one in Ukraine attends war but just proudly live and die as long as it lasts, what would happen? If nowhere in the world manufactures weapons in order to defend, but would smile at the enemy when they are about to kill them, what would happen? Following the Spirit would take a lot of courage, though.

Welcome! Usually, folks who post in this section include an article with a quick summary regarding the topic. Since you're new, relatively speaking, I would be happy to provide a possible article.

This is a short article on Just War Theory titled: How should we think about war?

How should we think about war? Understanding Just War Theory

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Joseph De Maistre wrote a pamphlet about war and in it he quotes a Muslim North African who was reputed to have said something along the lines of: God created man that he might fight wars. He then proceeds to list all of the world's major wars that he had knowledge and he takes particular care to note how there are always excuses and justifications made to prosecute a war in any given age, in any given time. It simply part of the human condition.

Given that it is unavoidable, what can be done to limit it? In WW1, had Russia not sought to defend Serbia there would have been no WW1. It would have been a purely localized conflict between Austria-Hungary and Serbia and it would have been less bloody. If various powers had not got involved in the thirty years war, that war would not have been as long or as brutal.

If there is one thing we ought to avoid at all costs, it's total warfare. Demanding the Total surrender of the enemy without terms or conditions. The amount of lives that need to be sacrificed to achieve that goal are not worth it. But warfare in of itself will always be with us and until Christ comes back there will always be those who seek warfare because it is in their interests.

 

[d taylor]

-
​

War is a characteristic of satan's kingdom rule.

 

[partinobodycular]

What do you think about war?

Actually I'm a big supporter of war. I don't see anything wrong with it. It's one of the things that makes life interesting. The idea that we all need to live in shangri la doesn't sound all that appealing to me. So whether the Russians kill the Ukrainians or we end up with a nuclear holocaust...well that's life. You're only gonna live for a very short time, the only question is what's gonna happen between the day you're born and the day you die. I want it to be an adventure, full of the unknown, yes there should be love, and compassion, and courage, and hope, and faith, and I shall do my best to live my life in pursuit of such things, but there should also be sorrow, and suffering, and injustice, and every conceivable emotion, trial, and triumph that life can possibly pack into it. So I say let there be war, and let there be suffering, and let there be injustice. For the day will come when I will experience these things no more...but let my life not have been a frivolous thing that I walked through unchallenged. Let it have been nobler than that. Let me have fought the good fight.

 

[dqhall]

What do you think about war? Life is created by God so it must be decided by God. Who among those past and current leaders believe God decided through him or her? Moses was likely the one, though, and we can see fight progress through him. He needed to raise an arm for one's victory, and the other to depict the other's victory. If western countries follow the Bible, which leader really did what Moses had done? If Russia won't attack until God commands it to, what would happen? If no one in Ukraine attends war but just proudly live and die as long as it lasts, what would happen? If nowhere in the world manufactures weapons in order to defend, but would smile at the enemy when they are about to kill them, what would happen? Following the Spirit would take a lot of courage, though.

If a military leader sins and does something God did not command, I should not blame God.

Luke 14:31 (WEB) `When a king goes to fight against another king, he sits down first and thinks about the matter. He will ask himself, "Can I fight him with ten thousand soldiers? He has twenty thousand soldiers."
32 If he cannot fight him, he will send some men to meet the other king while he is still far away. He will try to make peace with him.

When this king who is poised to attack states he does not intend to keep the defending king and his leaders alive alive, the defending king might fight to the death. Another alternative is to do as Jesus did and die the death at the hands of the executioner that others might go free.

 

[timothyu]

Matthew 24:6
“And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.”

Lyrics
[Intro]
(War, huh) Yeah!
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing, uhuh
(War, huh) Yeah!
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing
Say it again, y'all!
(War, huh) Lookout!
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing
Listen to me, awwwww!

[Verse 1]
War I despise
'Cause it means destruction of innocent lives
War means tears to thousands of mothers' eyes
When their sons go out to fight and lose their lives
I said

[Hook]
(War, huh) Good God y'all
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing, say it again
(War, huh) Lord, lord, lord, lord
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing
Listen to me!

[Verse 2]
(War), It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
(War), Friend only to the undertaker, awwww
War is the enemy of all mankind
The thought of war blows my mind
War has caused unrest, within the younger generation
Induction then destruction
Who wants to die?
Awwww!

[Hook]
(War, huh) good God y'all
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing, say it, say it, say it
(War, huh) Oh-ohh yeah, huh
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing
Listen to me

[Verse 3]
(War), It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
(War), It's got one friend, that's the undertaker, awwww
War has shattered many young men's dreams
Made them disabled, bitter and mean
Life is much too short and precious to be fighting wars these days
War can't give life, it can only take it away, awwww!




[Hook]
(War, huh) Good God y'all
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing, say it
(War, huh) Lord, lord, lord, lord
(What is it good for?) Oh, absolutely nothing
Listen to me

[Verse 4]
(War), It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
(War), Friend only to the undertaker, woooo!
Peace, love and understanding
Tell me, is there no place for them today?
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord knows there's gotta be a better way, ooohhh

“War” is a counterculture era soul song written by Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong for the Motown label in 1969.

 

[Paulos23]

War should be the last recorse to apply change after all other recorses have been used.

And even then, rarely is it justified.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

What do you think about war? Life is created by God so it must be decided by God. Who among those past and current leaders believe God decided through him or her? Moses was likely the one, though, and we can see fight progress through him. He needed to raise an arm for one's victory, and the other to depict the other's victory. If western countries follow the Bible, which leader really did what Moses had done? If Russia won't attack until God commands it to, what would happen? If no one in Ukraine attends war but just proudly live and die as long as it lasts, what would happen? If nowhere in the world manufactures weapons in order to defend, but would smile at the enemy when they are about to kill them, what would happen? Following the Spirit would take a lot of courage, though.

Welcome to CF. There are very few Americans who have actually been " in" a war zone. I would bet that those who are " in" a war zone hate it.
Blessings

 

[Nithavela]

Matthew 24:6
“And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.”

Lyrics
[Intro]
(War, huh) Yeah!
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing, uhuh
(War, huh) Yeah!
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing
Say it again, y'all!
(War, huh) Lookout!
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing
Listen to me, awwwww!

[Verse 1]
War I despise
'Cause it means destruction of innocent lives
War means tears to thousands of mothers' eyes
When their sons go out to fight and lose their lives
I said

[Hook]
(War, huh) Good God y'all
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing, say it again
(War, huh) Lord, lord, lord, lord
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing
Listen to me!

[Verse 2]
(War), It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
(War), Friend only to the undertaker, awwww
War is the enemy of all mankind
The thought of war blows my mind
War has caused unrest, within the younger generation
Induction then destruction
Who wants to die?
Awwww!

[Hook]
(War, huh) good God y'all
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing, say it, say it, say it
(War, huh) Oh-ohh yeah, huh
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing
Listen to me

[Verse 3]
(War), It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
(War), It's got one friend, that's the undertaker, awwww
War has shattered many young men's dreams
Made them disabled, bitter and mean
Life is much too short and precious to be fighting wars these days
War can't give life, it can only take it away, awwww!




[Hook]
(War, huh) Good God y'all
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothing, say it
(War, huh) Lord, lord, lord, lord
(What is it good for?) Oh, absolutely nothing
Listen to me

[Verse 4]
(War), It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
(War), Friend only to the undertaker, woooo!
Peace, love and understanding
Tell me, is there no place for them today?
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord knows there's gotta be a better way, ooohhh

“War” is a counterculture era soul song written by Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong for the Motown label in 1969.

 

[timothyu]

And even then, rarely is it justified.

But they will tell you it is profitable. The people who wage wars never pay for them. That is our job.

 

[John Owen]

War is horrible, but sometimes necessary to carry out the brandishing of the sword as God's agent, as in Romans 13.

 

[durangodawood]

War sounds miserable and I'm glad Ive never had to be in it.

I do think a nation has to defend itself. And I think its valid to help allied countries with their self defense. But these invented wars are just a crime.

 

[MehGuy]

Doesn't really matter what I think. War is ingrained in human nature. Besides the potential of genetic engineering, it's never going away.

Listening to John Lennon's imagine feels good.. but it's garbage in reality. This isn't a moral judgement..

 

[dqhall]

Welcome to CF. There are very few Americans who have actually been " in" a war zone. I would bet that those who are " in" a war zone hate it.
Blessings

Some have lived on the mean streets of the inner city where there was the sound of gunfire on hot summer nights. Strong armed robbery was too common there.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Joseph De Maistre wrote a pamphlet about war and in it he quotes a Muslim North African who was reputed to have said something along the lines of: God created man that he might fight wars. He then proceeds to list all of the world's major wars that he had knowledge and he takes particular care to note how there are always excuses and justifications made to prosecute a war in any given age, in any given time. It simply part of the human condition.

Given that it is unavoidable, what can be done to limit it? In WW1, had Russia not sought to defend Serbia there would have been no WW1. It would have been a purely localized conflict between Austria-Hungary and Serbia and it would have been less bloody. If various powers had not got involved in the thirty years war, that war would not have been as long or as brutal.

If there is one thing we ought to avoid at all costs, it's total warfare. Demanding the Total surrender of the enemy without terms or conditions. The amount of lives that need to be sacrificed to achieve that goal are not worth it. But warfare in of itself will always be with us and until Christ comes back there will always be those who seek warfare because it is in their interests.

I disagree...total warfare results in shorter conflicts that ultimately get resolved.

Just war theory creates a situation wherein defenders simply have to continue fighting....eventually, the just war invader will give up and leave.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

I disagree...total warfare results in shorter conflicts that ultimately get resolved.

Shorter conflicts? No, it extends conflicts beyond necessity or optimal value for both sides. Had the Central powers and the Entente agreed to a partial peace conference earlier in the war, it would not have been so bloody. Total war also encourages treating the whole nation as a participant and so the recognition between civilian and war participant goes out the window. This is why the allies were willing to firebomb Japanese and German civilian structures and peoples during WW2. The whole nation was an enemy combatant.

Total war leads to an increase of escalation and combine that with democratic governments that are able to just print more money to keep the war effort going, it makes it even more dangerous. Conflicts if they are going to happen ought to be kept localized and escalation should be avoided.

Just war theory creates a situation wherein defenders simply have to continue fighting....eventually, the just war invader will give up and leave.

Just war theory is not averse to practical considerations and if in winning a war you lose more than was reasonable, it might be preferable to lose the war for the sake of a greater potential future. Though I am not specifically familiar with the doctrines of just war proponents.

 

[RDKirk]

Welcome to CF. There are very few Americans who have actually been " in" a war zone. I would bet that those who are " in" a war zone hate it.
Blessings

I haven't been in a war zone (did get captured by communist rebels in the Philippines, but that was highly unusual for an intel guy), but there are a few hundred people who would likely be alive if I had not "painted the mark of destruction" on their foreheads.

I've seen some of the bodies on film being hauled from destroyed buildings, courtesy of Peter Arnett, who might still be alive if I had been a bit less vigorous in my job.

And that does bother me.

 

[RDKirk]

War sounds miserable and I'm glad Ive never had to be in it.

I do think a nation has to defend itself. And I think its valid to help allied countries with their self defense. But these invented wars are just a crime.

All wars are invented wars.

 

[RDKirk]

I disagree...total warfare results in shorter conflicts that ultimately get resolved.

Only if it goes nuclear.