And I forgive you for thinking that I lied to you about Andy, Andrea and Mimi. If I have something to say to you, I just say it directly. I don't have to pretend to be other people to tell you what's on my mind.
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I believe the discipleship/formation process needs to address this, so that new Christians can begin their lives in the church prepared to largely take responsibility for their own growth and nurturing, and be able to go to church just to give, without needing position or significance, but being prepared to love, to welcome, and to engage in mission alongside those in the church.
Our focus surely needs to be on mission, on spreading the gospel and working out how to be the people of God out in our communities, not on being consumers of church culture. But to get that through involves an entire cultural shift in many of our churches.
But cultural change is traumatic! :0)
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Our focus surely needs to be on mission, on spreading the gospel and working out how to be the people of God out in our communities, not on being consumers of church culture. But to get that through involves an entire cultural shift in many of our churches.
But cultural change is traumatic! :0)
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One of my fears is that we are so focused on evagelism, that once a person is saved, we drop them and move on to the next unsaved person. And during the evangelism process, the focus is on the person, so they feel justified in thinking that the focus will always be on them.
I agree that we need to be more invovled in discipling. Jesus didn't just tell us to go out and spread the gospel, we need to make disciples, too.
But when the potential disciples all have the attitude that someone should gear all the lessons toward them personally and spoon-feed them every bite for the rest of their lives or they get mad and look for a "better" church that will cater to them, it makes it hard to disciple. Because discipling isn't something you do AT someone, it's something you do WITH them. If they are so narcissistic that they refuse to participate, they can't be discipled.
I agree that we need to be more invovled in discipling. Jesus didn't just tell us to go out and spread the gospel, we need to make disciples, too.
But when the potential disciples all have the attitude that someone should gear all the lessons toward them personally and spoon-feed them every bite for the rest of their lives or they get mad and look for a "better" church that will cater to them, it makes it hard to disciple. Because discipling isn't something you do AT someone, it's something you do WITH them. If they are so narcissistic that they refuse to participate, they can't be discipled.
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Zisunka is right about discipling not just spreading the gospel. We were told to make disciples & I don't appreciate churches that don't grow people up in the Lord. We are to move on from milk to strong meat. If that is done properly there are more workers to gather in the harvest.
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But it's also up to the individual to seek and accept discipling.
So many Christians get a notion in their heads that by the time they know everything and they're ready to be leaders, not disciples.
But each of us will be disciples the rest of our lives. Even if God calls us to a leadership role, we will always have to be disciples, too.
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For me that is a given ~ but I enjoy learning much more than I enjoy teaching. As in most areas of life a balance must be struck.
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