What do y’all think about Yi qi a feathered dinosaur with batlike wings

[Brightmoon]

Haven't we learned about not eating unclean beasts?

why ? do you think they’re poisonous?

 

[Tone]

why ? do you think they’re poisonous?

Are they meat eaters?


I'm sure it's unhealthy to eat carrion eating animals.

 

[Brightmoon]

Some Pterosaurs are fish eaters And they could probably stab other prey with their beaks like herons do. The protobirds? Depends on their size insects to other animals . I doubt if they ate too many seeds with those teeth

 

[Tone]

Some Pterosaurs are fish eaters And they could probably stab other prey with their beaks like herons do. The protobirds? Depends on their size insects to other animals . I doubt if they ate too many seeds with those teeth

"The clean species of birds have a 'crop" which prepares the grain and food before entering its stomach and a gizzard with a double lining which can be separated. They bring their food to the ground and divide it with their bills. They have a toe-spread, so that three front ones can be on one side of a perch, and a hind one at the back.

"And these you shall regard as an abomination among the birds; they shall not be eaten: the eagle, the hawk, the vulture, the red kite, the black kite, all owls, all ravens, the cormorant, osprey, storks, pelicans, falcons, ravens, cuckoos, woodpeckers, parrots, ostrich, emu, herons, the hoopoe bats, the sea gulls (and all other aquatic and wading birds, excluding the swan and ducks). [The Hebrew word teshemet does not mean "swan", but rather refers to both a water hen and a species of owl] Leviticus 11:13-19

Unclean birds will devour their food in the air or press it down with their feet and tear it apart with their bills as they have a different digestive system. Birds who lack any of the specifications for clean birds, fall into the unclean category."
Hebrew Roots/Unclean foods/Diseases - Wikibooks, open books for an open world

Would you say they would be considered clean or unclean according to the above article?

 

[Brightmoon]

Don’t know as they’re not birds, they’re dinosaurs or pterosaurs. Birds are dinosaurs but not all dinosaurs are birds and pterosaurs were a completely different lineage of archosaurs ( dinosaurs are archosaurs too)

 

[Tone]

Don’t know as they’re not birds, they’re dinosaurs or pterosaurs. Birds are dinosaurs but not all dinosaurs are birds and pterosaurs were a completely different lineage of archosaurs ( dinosaurs are archosaurs too)

So dinosaurs were neither clean nor unclean?

 

[Brightmoon]

I don’t know . Living Archosaurs consist of the crocodilians and the birds . According to the Bible some birds are clean and some aren’t . I don’t know how they’d feel about crocodilians . non avian dinosaurs and pterosaurs died out long before apes like us existed

 

[Strathos]

Mark 7:15-20 tells me I'd give it a try.

 

[Tone]

Mark 7:15-20 tells me I'd give it a try.

You would still be susceptible to any disease or toxins in the animal.

 

[Strathos]

You would still be susceptible to any disease or toxins in the animal.

I'd cook it first.

 

[Shemjaza]

Given some of the modern birds, the dinosaur connection makes perfect sense.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

it’s a theropod . Pterosaurs wings were formed by a long finger and elongated wrist bones along with normal arm bones. If you look at a fossil pterosaur, you can see this. The animal looks like it has 2 forearms because of those elongated wrist bones.View attachment 278581

Yi qi has a cartilage strut formed from the wrist bones . Maybe if the lineage had survived longer it would have eventually become bony

Pterosaurs and dinosaurs are related but one didn’t evolve from the other

Yes; it just seemed to me like an interesting example of convergent evolution for flight - pterosaurs, this creature, and bats all came up with a similar, membraneous, solution.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

"The clean species of birds have a 'crop" which prepares the grain and food before entering its stomach and a gizzard with a double lining which can be separated. They bring their food to the ground and divide it with their bills. They have a toe-spread, so that three front ones can be on one side of a perch, and a hind one at the back.

"And these you shall regard as an abomination among the birds; they shall not be eaten: the eagle, the hawk, the vulture, the red kite, the black kite, all owls, all ravens, the cormorant, osprey, storks, pelicans, falcons, ravens, cuckoos, woodpeckers, parrots, ostrich, emu, herons, the hoopoe bats, the sea gulls (and all other aquatic and wading birds, excluding the swan and ducks). [The Hebrew word teshemet does not mean "swan", but rather refers to both a water hen and a species of owl] Leviticus 11:13-19

Unclean birds will devour their food in the air or press it down with their feet and tear it apart with their bills as they have a different digestive system. Birds who lack any of the specifications for clean birds, fall into the unclean category."
Hebrew Roots/Unclean foods/Diseases - Wikibooks, open books for an open world

Would you say they would be considered clean or unclean according to the above article?

Those criteria don't appear to have any relevance to whether the bird is safe or healthy to eat. Some birds (e.g. sea birds) may not taste very nice because of their fishy diet, but that doesn't, of itself, make them unhealthy to eat.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Given some of the modern birds, the dinosaur connection makes perfect sense.

We have lots of clear examples of birds losing the ability to fly
examples of gaining it- are a little trickier to identify

Form follows function certainly. But where and when it follows ancestry, is inherently more speculative..

 

[Brightmoon]

Featherless chicken
Birds ARE dinosaurs

 

[Tone]

Those criteria don't appear to have any relevance to whether the bird is safe or healthy to eat. Some birds (e.g. sea birds) may not taste very nice because of their fishy diet, but that doesn't, of itself, make them unhealthy to eat.

There must be something to the identifiers that the Creator revealed. He gave this diet, as the Creator of human bodies, because He knows what is healthiest for them.

It could be that the unclean animals aren't necessarily poisonous to the human body, but that they are not the optimal source for necessary nutrients.

 

[Brightmoon]

There must be something to the identifiers that the Creator revealed. He gave this diet, as the Creator of human bodies, because He knows what is healthiest for them.

It could be that the unclean animals aren't necessarily poisonous to the human body, but that they are not the optimal source for necessary nutrients.

or like a lot of legalistic behavior, it’s for control . If you’re too busy following nitpicking rules, you don’t have time or mental energy to think . There’s a famous acronym called BITE that people can use to determine if you’re in a cult or in an abusive controlling relationship

 

[Tone]

like a lot of legalistic behavior, it’s for control

Oh, so you believe the Creator gave it just for control? Yes, He is in total control, but He also is good and He gives what is good and useful....He does not act or speak in vain.

 

[Brightmoon]

Oh, so you believe the Creator gave it just for control? Yes, He is in total control, but He also is good and He gives what is good and useful....He does not act or speak in vain.

You don’t get it do you? Religious leader says that God said XYZ. But how does anyone confirm that?

 

[Tone]

You don’t get it do you? Religious leader says that God said XYZ. But how does anyone confirm that?

The Bible.