What do we do about the perfidious Catholics who continue to profess heretical ideas?

[ebia]

So if you study the Bible and arrive at that conclusion, you're wrong?

I didn't say that or anything like that.

 

[AvilaSurfer]

I didn't say that or anything like that.

I beg to differ. You said exactly that.

 

[ebia]

I beg to differ. You said exactly that.

No I didn't. All I pointed out is that some people do do the study and conclude the church is wrong. Others conclude it is right. I make no comment on which of those two are correct; that isn't the point I'm making. Just that study does not always lead to the student agreeing with the CC

 

[AvilaSurfer]

Then you need to work on making your point clearer.

 

[ebia]

Then you need to work on making your point clearer.

or you could ask for clarification when someone says they didn't say what you accuse them of saying.

 

[Michie]

Obviously Catholics believe the bible supports their position.

But to suggest that anyone who studies the bible will arrive at that position seems to fly in the face of reality.

It does not matter what everyone else thinks. Catholics in a Catholic forum usually take the Catholic position. Why do you want to debate what those outside the church might conclude? It does not really matter from a Catholic pov.

 

[ebia]

It does not matter what everyone else thinks. Catholics in a Catholic forum usually take the Catholic position. Why do you want to debate what those outside the church might conclude? It does not really matter from a Catholic pov.

I don't think you've understood what I've said.

 

[mg0086]

But still go to Communion each Sunday. It is truly horrifying.

Well people take Jesus in sacrilage all the time. The members of my own family are all lukewarm Catholics. I'm the only truly active one. Cept' perhaps a couple others.

It does kill me every time. I'm guilty of it too, but I make a GOOD confession and promise to never do it again. Fr. Ralph says people take communion in sacrilage because of pride and embarrassment. And he's absolutely right.

I tend to say, "If you're ashamed to tell your priests your true beliefs and what you stand for(because they hold the power to withhold Communion from you), maybe its time to rethink what you stand for...."

 

[Michie]

I don't think you've understood what I've said.

No. I understood what you said. I just don't understand your reason for saying it.

 

[ebia]

No. I understood what you said. I just don't understand your reason for saying it.

RoJ (seemed) to be saying "if one studies one is bound to agree with the Church". That's clearly not the case - many do study and still disagree (or even move from agreeing to disagreeing). Study is a good thing, but it isn't proof against heresy; John Dominic Crossan is proof of that.


That's not saying that church teaching is wrong.

 

[Michie]

RoJ (seemed) to be saying "if one studies one is bound to agree with the Church". That's clearly not the case - many do study and still disagree (or even move from agreeing to disagreeing). Study is a good thing, but it isn't proof against heresy; John Dominic Crossan is proof of that.


That's not saying that church teaching is wrong.

Agreed. As my situation with Muslims worshipping the same God. I don't understand it so I cannot completely agree with it although I assent to it.

But let's not get into that again. I still need to discuss it with my priest.

Just using it as an example.

 

[Tigg]

One's understanding of Catholic teaching can be in varying stages of belief or understanding. For example, purgatory, I could not really get it. Or understand it. But over time and a lot of thinking, I now do. And I mean time. We arrive at getting it (whatever it may be for each of us) at different times.

So, wishing you all peace.

 

[mg0086]

One's understanding of Catholic teaching can be in varying stages of belief or understanding. For example, purgatory, I could not really get it. Or understand it. But over time and a lot of thinking, I now do. And I mean time. We arrive at getting it (whatever it may be for each of us) at different times.

So, wishing you all peace.

I myself can see the growth and how far I've come in understanding of the Catholic faith. Unfortunately when I went to CCD wasn't so informant and I never got a good Catholic education as a kid as I should have.

Thanks to the glory of the internet and the grace of God for the will to do it, I really settled in and studied all I could. Some I didn't understand at the time, but then after attending masses, countless bible studies, and my own discoveries, I finally get it all. Well..most of it, I think.

But, as you said, all in good time!