What do Christians think?

[alexiscurious]

MONSTER Energy drinks are the work of SATAN!!! - YouTube

Is this the work of Satan or the work of a paranoid woman?

 

[oi_antz]

MONSTER Energy drinks are the work of SATAN!!! - YouTube

Is this the work of Satan or the work of a paranoid woman?

It appears to me that it is the deliberate work of humans who know these symbols will appeal to a given consumer market. See her comment at 1:50. The designer of this brand is probably not trying to make the devil laugh, but the consumers.

This woman is doing their work for them, because the anti-Christian spirit appeals to those of us who have found condemnation in Christ. (Which, by the way, is not a Christian message John 3:17.

Whether this is the work of Satan, I would say one way or another it probably is (Satan is a word to describe a spirit that opposes God Matthew 16:23).

But, there definitely is a lot of what this woman says that is paranoid and rhetoric.

BTW, did you want me to answer your questions to aiki on the other thread? It wasn't clear to me if you were serious or hinting that you don't want to talk to me. They are good questions, I sense they are close to the source of your frustration.

 

[RDKirk]

It's certainly no worse than the tag line of 7-UP: "Obey Your Thirst," which is a direct invitation to serving your flesh as your master. "Their god is their bellies..." indeed.

 

[Tree of Life]

Nah she just crazy.

 

[food4thought]

 

[ViaCrucis]

MONSTER Energy drinks are the work of SATAN!!! - YouTube

Is this the work of Satan or the work of a paranoid woman?

I got 14 seconds in. When the woman decided to bring up the Hebrew letter Vav, which numerically amounts to 6.

I knew precisely where it was going from there and didn't need to watch further. She was going to suggest the three claw marks of the Monster logo were three Vavs, thus 666.

I can already explain why this is a problem.

The number mentioned in the Apocalypse of St. John isn't Six, Six, Six. It's six hundred and sixty-six. 600 + 60 + 6.

If you wanted to write that out using Hebrew numerals you would first need the numeric for 600, which would be a Tav and a Resh (the Hebrew writing system only has enough characters to have distinct characters up to 400, above that requires writing additive characters, in this case Tav (400) and Resh (200)) -- (ת&#1512

Then you'll need the character for 60, which would be Samekh (&#1505

And then finally you need the character for 6, Vav (&#1493

You'd get something like תרסו

Which looks nothing like the Monster logo.

Whatever else might have been in the video, no doubt, was equally as stupid. I didn't watch past those first 14 seconds.

Additionally, the number 666 (some early manuscripts use 616) isn't some bogeyman number. It's intended as a numeric cryptogram to indicate a specific individual's name. St. John of Patmos writes,

"This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is six hundred and sixty-six." - Revelation 13:18

John expects his readers to be able to figure this out. His original readers were the Christians living in the seven cities mention at the beginning, in the Roman province of Asia Minor: Ephesus, Sardis, Smyrna, Philadelphia, Pergamon, Thyatira, and Laodicea.

If the individual being referenced here cryptically as having a name that amounts to six hundred and sixty-six was someone that could be identified by Christians living in Asia around the year 95 AD, then chances are it's not referring to any individual living today. And even less so, it's not referring to an energy drink. That sort of paranoid apocalyptic stupidity is worthless tripe that no Christian should concern her or himself with.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[lesliedellow]

This Christian thinks she is an idiot, probably haling from the southern states of America.

 

[dcalling]

I have no idea about this, defer to God.

"Does our law condemn a man without first hearing him to find out what he has been doing?" (John 7:51)

 

[ViaCrucis]

This Christian thinks she is an idiot, probably haling from the southern states of America.

I assure you that those of us who hail from the northern states here in the US are not immune to this kind of stupidity. I grew up on the American/Canadian border in one of the more liberal states in the country, and there was still plenty of crazy.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ForJesusChrist]

I'd say the monster logo is nothing more than an "M".

 

[orangeness365]

Unless you want to make the argument that the concoction is some sort of witchcraft, which would be pretty hard to argue, then I don't see it. I drank red bull in college. I don't see the difference between that and a monster drink. By extension, it's like coffee, but super concentrated, and coffee, by extension, is like sugar, but super concentrated. It's purpose is just to keep you awake. If you want argue that something is demonic, look at the drugs that make you drunk and unable to remember what you said and did, not something that despite being bad for your body just keeps you awake.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Unless you want to make the argument that the concoction is some sort of witchcraft, which would be pretty hard to argue, then I don't see it. I drank red bull in college. I don't see the difference between that and a monster drink. By extension, it's like coffee, but super concentrated, and coffee, by extension, is like sugar, but super concentrated. It's purpose is just to keep you awake. If you want argue that something is demonic, look at the drugs that make you drunk and unable to remember what you said and did, not something that despite being bad for your body just keeps you awake.

Coffee, on the other hand, is pretty healthy (in moderation), at least until one decides to load it up with sugar and syrups and generally Star Bucks it up. Energy drinks aren't. While they have caffeine which is generally fine, they are absolutely loaded with sugar (or high fructose corn syrup as is more likely) and various chemical compounds.

Though while energy drinks are unhealthy, they're hardly evil. Unless one wants to regard the entire sugar industry as rather morally unscrupulous, which I think is a fair categorization; but that's really something else entirely and hardly a matter of over-literalizing apocalyptic symbols and imagery.

I'd say it's a pretty wise idea to avoid energy drinks like Monster, but only in the same way it'd be pretty wise idea to avoid junk food generally. Then again I say this while quite happily drinking a bottle of Coke after eating sloppy joes.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[orangeness365]

Though while energy drinks are unhealthy, they're hardly evil. Unless one wants to regard the entire sugar industry as rather morally unscrupulous, which I think is a fair categorization; but that's really something else entirely and hardly a matter of over-literalizing apocalyptic symbols and imagery.


-CryptoLutheran

yes sugar is evil

 

[oi_antz]

yes sugar is evil

But, isn't the whole matter about attitudes? Sugar is bad, and people may do bad things, that is evil. Sugar is not evil, and neither is a logo that looks like 6,6,6.