What do Christians think of Muhammad?

[Brian45]

Hang on , what am I missing , I think I'm getting paranoid .

 

[Brian45]

Originally posted by s0uljah


Yeah a bunch of half-baked conspiracy sites...

The event actualy happened souljah , I also read about it in time magazine  , I think it was time .

There was also another event concerning the pope in assisi , this had to do with ecumenism .  I think it was at assisi where the pope allowed the cross to be replaced with statue of buddah and everyone prayed to buddah , this was to prove that all religions could come together .

I know you think i'm a stirer but i'm not ,  I just like to present facts rather than a load of hogwash that we hear a lot of today .

I will try and find more on the event at assisi  .   thanks .

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

Originally posted by Brian45


The event actualy happened souljah , I also read about it in time magazine  , I think it was time .

There was also another event concerning the pope in assisi , this had to do with ecumenism .  I think it was at assisi where the pope allowed the cross to be replaced with statue of buddah and everyone prayed to buddah , this was to prove that all religions could come together .

I know you think i'm a stirer but i'm not ,  I just like to present facts rather than a load of hogwash that we hear a lot of today .

I will try and find more on the event at assisi  .   thanks .

Its half-baked because it ignores the reason he kissed the Koran.  He wasn't declaring it "correct," He was hangin out with sinners, like Jesus did.

 

[Warrior4Jah]

Im ashamed of many people in this thread. This stupid thing need to be locked up and thrown away! All its become is a thread fgor exchanging discrete insults! It has NOTHING to do with the originial topic, and absolutely NO debate is taking place. There is no need to say anything in this thread because there is no existing subject! I wish a mod would have a look at this.

 

[Brian45]

Originally posted by s0uljah


Its half-baked because it ignores the reason he kissed the Koran.  He wasn't declaring it "correct," He was hangin out with sinners, like Jesus did.

Here are some interesting things for you to read souljah .

Check out the photographs .

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/jp2.htm   (  photographs  )

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/ecumenism.htm

http://www.surfwax.com/servlet/com.surfwax.FrontEnd.home?cmd=frames&search=%20ecumenism%20at%20assisi&max=50&sort=relevance&summaries=checked

 

 

[Annabel Lee]

Originally posted by Warrior4Jah
Im ashamed of many people in this thread. This stupid thing need to be locked up and thrown away! All its become is a thread fgor exchanging discrete insults! It has NOTHING to do with the originial topic, and absolutely NO debate is taking place. There is no need to say anything in this thread because there is no existing subject! I wish a mod would have a look at this.

I agree Warrior but Brian seems to be having a good old time.
I take it, Brian, that you have a problem with ecumenism.

 

[Annabel Lee]

Originally posted by gunnysgt


Hmmm. So then Catholic Christians and those that beleive in Allah share the sacraments together I take it. Interesting concept.

GySgt James

Please point out where I said that.

 

[bouncer]

Originally posted by Brian45

Here are some interesting things for you to read souljah .

Check out the photographs .

Brian, this is really a non-issue.....the Pope is not only a religious leader, but also an important political figure; in these times.

You don't win people by rejecting them.....Jesus did the same, when he mingled with tax collectors and prostitutes....im guessing you don't have a problem with that.

Its amazing how Jesus' own followers are part of the same hypocrisy that he came to rid this world of....

ps: im not catholic

 

[Brian45]

Originally posted by Annabel Lee

I agree Warrior but Brian seems to be having a good old time.
I take it, Brian, that you have a problem with ecumenism.

No I don't have a problem with ecumenism Annabel , I was trying to show that by the pope kissing the koran he was helping to bring about ecumenism   (  The comming together of all the worlds religions to help bring peace to a fearfull and war torn planet  . )

Sounds good dosn't it ,  but if it should happen , It will create a hybrid religion that will distance itself from true christianity .

If it dosn't happen , good  , but if it does , then I believe that christians have a right to know what's going on around them  .

The bible warns us to be aware of many deceptions : false christs , false religions  and so forth .

If you find what I say is offensive , just remember , it wasn't me who kissed the koran and nor do I hold false religions in high esteem .

 

 

 

 

[Annabel Lee]

, but if it should happen , It will create a hybrid religion that will distance itself from true christianity .

I hardly think the 2000 year old Catholic Church will allow itself to be hybridized. The wheels of change in the Church turn very slowly.

I look at ecumenism in different religious beliefs the same way as I look at the way different countries deal with each other. It is to our advantage to be friendly and have at least a basic concept and understanding of their beliefs.

That includes not accusing them of worshipping false Gods. This is a big world and we have to get along or we will kill each other. Christian are not immune from that sin. They can hate right along with the best of them.

 

[Brian45]

Originally posted by bouncer


Brian, this is really a non-issue.....the Pope is not only a religious leader, but also an important political figure; in these times.

You don't win people by rejecting them.....Jesus did the same, when he mingled with tax collectors and prostitutes....im guessing you don't have a problem with that.

Its amazing how Jesus' own followers are part of the same hypocrisy that he came to rid this world of....

ps: im not catholic

 

Under ecumenism the pope is not trying to bring people to jesus christ , rather , he is trying to bring christians to the understanding and acceptance of other religions , including  paganism  and false gods ,  and so far it seems he is slowly winning  .

 

[Annabel Lee]

Originally posted by Brian45


 

Under ecumenism the pope is not trying to bring people to jesus christ , rather , he is trying to bring christians to the understanding and acceptance of other religions , including  paganism  and false gods ,  and so far it seems he is slowly winning  .

Understanding another religion is not a bad thing. And neither is acceptance. I "accept" the right of another person to have a different belief system. If I can do that, I am less likely to think of them as the enemy. And I am more likely to treat him kindly. As soon as we take the "other" status from a person they become human. If we leave it there they become fair game.
It's not only Christians who are my brothers and sisters but everyone on this planet.
Well, that's my humble philosophy.

 

[Brian45]

Originally posted by Annabel Lee

I hardly think the 2000 year old Catholic Church will allow itself to be hybridized. The wheels of change in the Church turn very slowly.

I look at ecumenism in different religious beliefs the same way as I look at the way different countries deal with each other. It is to our advantage to be friendly and have at least a basic concept and understanding of their beliefs.

That includes not accusing them of worshipping false Gods. This is a big world and we have to get along or we will kill each other. Christian are not immune from that sin. They can hate right along with the best of them.

The early christians never worshiped ceasar , even though he claimed to be a god .

They knew he was a false god and refused him .

 

[Brian45]

Originally posted by Annabel Lee


Understanding another religion is not a bad thing. And neither is acceptance. I "accept" the right of another person to have a different belief system. If I can do that, I am less likely to think of them as the enemy. And I am more likely to treat him kindly. As soon as we take the "other" status from a person they become human. If we leave it there they become fair game.
It's not only Christians who are my brothers and sisters but everyone on this planet.
Well, that's my humble philosophy.

I agree with you on the acceptance of other people , but I cannot and will not say that buddism or any other ism is the way to the one true God . There is no other way exept through jesus christ .

 

[bouncer]

Originally posted by Brian45


Under ecumenism the pope is not trying to bring people to jesus christ , rather , he is trying to bring christians to the understanding and acceptance of other religions , including  paganism  and false gods ,  and so far it seems he is slowly winning  .

Yes, and I dont see why that is wrong ! He is not telling us to worship like them , or that these other religions can also lead us to salvation......

 

[KraKto$is8]

Hmmmm....

A lot of these arguments are merely insults or based on stereotypes.

The way to gague a religion is by its Holy Books, not by its peoples. If I were to judge a large proportion of Christianity by its followers, I would come away with a terrible impression. However, if I read the Holy Books - not all of them, but not a mere 2 verses - I see what a good religion - fundamentally - it is.

The same applies with Islam. The Qu'rán is an incredible book, I recommend you read it with an open mind and a pure heart. Try to purge any stereotypes or preconceptions from your head, and read it and you will see the inherent good in it.

 

[Brian45]

Originally posted by KraKto$is8
Hmmmm....

A lot of these arguments are merely insults or based on stereotypes.

The way to gague a religion is by its Holy Books, not by its peoples. If I were to judge a large proportion of Christianity by its followers, I would come away with a terrible impression. However, if I read the Holy Books - not all of them, but not a mere 2 verses - I see what a good religion - fundamentally - it is.

The same applies with Islam. The Qu'rán is an incredible book, I recommend you read it with an open mind and a pure heart. Try to purge any stereotypes or preconceptions from your head, and read it and you will see the inherent good in it.

 

There is only one truth  (  jesus christ  )  and the truth about him can only be found in one holy book  (  THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE  )

The author of this book is the one and only true God of the universe , the creator of all that is .

All other religions and so called holy books are of the Devil , and those who believe and follow these things are decieved by satan .

 

 

[Muslimah]

Originally posted by Brian45


 

There is only one truth  (  jesus christ  )  and the truth about him can only be found in one holy book  (  THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE  )

The author of this book is the one and only true God of the universe , the creator of all that is .

All other religions and so called holy books are of the Devil , and those who believe and follow these things are decieved by satan .

 

pssht
we shall see on judgement day , which book leads you to the devil & satan will be laughing at you when you get thrown into the pitts of hell

 

[Muslimah]

Originally posted by KraKto$is8

The same applies with Islam. The Qu'rán is an incredible book, I recommend you read it with an open mind and a pure heart. Try to purge any stereotypes or preconceptions from your head, and read it and you will see the inherent good in it.

We don't change Allah's message - His message changes us.

 

[Susan]

Originally posted by Muslimah


pssht
we shall see on judgement day , which book leads you to the devil & satan will be laughing at you when you get thrown into the pitts of hell

No, I will be going to Heaven. I have the confidence that I will because JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR MY SINS AND ROSE AGAIN.