What do Catholics believe?

[Arianna]

hello

I would like to know what Catholics believe that is different to what protestants/anglicans believe?

Thankyou

Arianna
xxx

 

[Agent]

Well, there are a lot of diferences. to sum a few of them up: the Pope is supposdlty the direct descendent of St Peter which they claim was the first pope (not biblically founded), they worship Mary the mother of Jesus and pray to her, They pray to other 'saints' as if they were Jesus or God, and they worship the symbols like the cross, pictures of virgin mary, and those are of top my head, really quickly.

 

[Deb7777]

hello

I would like to know what Catholics believe that is different to what protestants/anglicans believe?

Thankyou

Arianna
xxx

If you want the Catholic teachings, you need to visit the Catholic Forum for a complete understanding of the Church's teaching. It is under FAQ, it does a great job of explaining the faith. Anybody who thinks Catholics worship Mary I invite you to post that in the Catholic Forum to see the answer from Catholics. We do not worship Mary, Catholics would love to discuss any question anybody has over on the Catholic Forum. Get the answer right from the source, you might be surprised and learn something that you were mistaken on, can't hurt to see what your Catholic brothers and sisters truly believe. Somebody posted a link of the Catholic and Protestant postions, perhaps they could do so again.

 

[Agent]

I am not going to argue with you. perhaps you are a different catholic, but i grew up in a predominantly catholic country, and i am sorry, when you pray to someone, you are worshiping them, and if i remember correctly, hail mary is in no way directed towards God, but mary. that is one of the ways i believe catholics have a worship of mary included in their religion.

 

[Iron Lion]

Well, there are a lot of diferences. to sum a few of them up: the Pope is supposdlty the direct descendent of St Peter which they claim was the first pope (not biblically founded), they worship Mary the mother of Jesus and pray to her, They pray to other 'saints' as if they were Jesus or God, and they worship the symbols like the cross, pictures of virgin mary, and those are of top my head, really quickly.

i dont think one thing you stated there is something a catholic does or believes. Before you decide to answer a question for something your arent involved with, take the time to learn about it first. You just end up looking foolish if you dont.

 

[Agent]

i dont think one thing you stated there is something a catholic does or believes. Before you decide to answer a question for something your arent involved with, take the time to learn about it first. You just end up looking foolish if you dont.

thank you for your personal attack! But if you had read the latter post you would have discovered I do know what i am talking and have studied catholicism quick deeply.

 

[Iron Lion]

thank you for your personal attack! But if you had read the latter post you would have discovered I do know what i am talking and have studied catholicism quick deeply.

to start with, that wasnt a personal attack, i was justs making a point. Secondly. I dont believe you know what your talking about. How about you post your first posts statements in the Catholic forum and see what responce you get. I think every single person there (who acctully are practicing catholics) will debunk what you believe and posted about the Catholic church. Why not try it and see? what do you have to lose? You will either prove me wrong, or you will learn somthing.

The way things appear on the outside arent always as they are.

 

[Agent]

to start with, that wasnt a personal attack, i was justs making a point. Secondly. I dont believe you know what your talking about. How about you post your first posts statements in the Catholic forum and see what responce you get. I think every single person there (who acctully are practicing catholics) will debunk what you believe and posted about the Catholic church. Why not try it and see? what do you have to lose? You will either prove me wrong, or you will learn somthing.

The way things appear on the outside arent always as they are.

are you assuming i was an outsider? assuming makes a 'donkey' out of u and me my friend.

 

[Iron Lion]

are you assuming i was an outsider? assuming makes a 'donkey' out of u and me my friend.

well if you were an insider, im confused as to where you got the ideas of what you stated in your first post. In fact my Catechism Of The Catholic Church i have sitting here right now would not agree with you and it was written by the same church that your hinting to me that you were involved in.

 

[Arianna]

oooooooooooo
i started a fight!

(well, really i do actually genuinely want to know what catholics believe, it seems however, to be a touchy subject)

 

[Agent]

I suggest you read up about them. there are many sites by catholics and non-catholics that have a wealth of information.

going to the CF catholic section will give you a good source to start with, and then go to wikipedia.com and search there.

 

[Iron Lion]

the Pope is supposdlty the direct descendent of St Peter which they claim was the first pope

to correct you here, hes not supposedly the descendent of Peter, in fact he is the "successor" to Peter. Desdendent implys Catholics believe he was related to him.

(not biblically founded)

Matthew 16:18
18And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

, they worship Mary the mother of Jesus and pray to her, They pray to other 'saints' as if they were Jesus or God

I dont know where to start with this one. The way you type that (as if it is fact) youve implying that Catholics worship Mary and the Saints. You have stated this with your "as if they were Jesus or God"

Have you ever asked somone to pray for you? Well this is what catholics do when they offer prayers to saints or Mary. They are asking them you pray for us. Who better to ask to pray for you than those already in heaven?

, and they worship the symbols like the cross, pictures of virgin mary, .

Again, you have impled "worship". Catholics do not worship symbols. Having them around is not forbidden in the bible. Its the making of Idols and worshipping of graven images or idols that is forbidden. Images within the Catholic church simply inspire people. If you have ever met a catholic that claims to worship them then they simply are not catholic because they are disobeying what the Catholic church and bible teaches.

 

[Iron Lion]

I suggest you read up about them. there are many sites by catholics and non-catholics that have a wealth of information.

going to the CF catholic section will give you a good source to start with, and then go to wikipedia.com and search there.

why would i go to sites written by non catholics to learn about the Catholic church?.

And i do go to the CF catholic forum, Because im Catholic.

wikipedia is great, if not for the fact that anyone can edit it.

Wouldnt it make more sence to learn about the catholic church from books written by the church and people who are in it?

Would i ask a muslim to teach me about hinduism?

 

[Iron Lion]

oooooooooooo
i started a fight!

(well, really i do actually genuinely want to know what catholics believe,

Well best to ask Catholics hey?


If you really want to learn about the catholic church, i can PM you some sites about the catholic faith. Or you can ask me any questions you like.

Also browse through the Catholic forums here. Alot of what you want to know is asked their every day.

 

[Agent]

to correct you here, hes not supposedly the descendent of Peter, in fact he is the "successor" to Peter. Desdendent implys Catholics believe he was related to him.



Matthew 16:18
18And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

Have you read that passage that starts with the above verses? the name Peter is Greek it is Petros, which translates into peter. the word rock in greek is petra, which is the exact same word except for one thing. it is a female word. so according to what you said, Peter was a woman... What Jesus is saying when he says on this rock i will build my church has to do with the statement that Simon (peter) made in an earlier verse: You are the Christ, the son of the living God. That is a rock solid statment on behalf of Peter. that is the rock that Jesus is mentioning.

I dont know where to start with this one. The way you type that (as if it is fact) youve implying that Catholics worship Mary and the Saints. You have stated this with your "as if they were Jesus or God"

Have you ever asked somone to pray for you? Well this is what catholics do when they offer prayers to saints or Mary. They are asking them you pray for us. Who better to ask to pray for you than those already in heaven?

Yes i have asked many a people to pray for me and i have prayed for many more...but i have yet to ask a dead person to pray for me. that is nonsensical.

 

[Agent]

maybe the fact that the books written by catholics are biased.

If what the catholics believe is truly in the bible, then she should ONLY have to read the bible.

 

[Iron Lion]

Have you read that passage that starts with the above verses? the name Peter is Greek it is Petros, which translates into peter. the word rock in greek is petra, which is the exact same word except for one thing. it is a female word. so according to what you said, Peter was a woman... What Jesus is saying when he says on this rock i will build my church has to do with the statement that Simon (peter) made in an earlier verse: You are the Christ, the son of the living God. That is a rock solid statment on behalf of Peter. that is the rock that Jesus is mentioning.

Your off a bit here. I urge you to read these links and get back to me.
http://www.catholic.com/library/Peter_the_Rock.asp
http://www.catholic.com/library/Peter_and_the_Papacy.asp

Yes i have asked many a people to pray for me and i have prayed for many more...but i have yet to ask a dead person to pray for me. that is nonsensical.

Catholics dont believe people in heaven are "dead" in the sence of gone and are no more. If this was the case, what would be the point of eternal life? Catholics believe that people in heaven hear our prayers and this can be backed up with scripture.

 

[Iron Lion]

maybe the fact that the books written by catholics are biased.

biased? its not a matter of being biased, are you saying a non catholic would know more about the catholic church than a catholic? The church writters dont have anything to hide. The simply write about what catholics believe. Go get a copy of the Churches Catechism. This offers everything catholics believe and explains them in great detail. ITs not biaesd or non biased. Its just what Catholics believe written by the church its self.

If what the catholics believe is truly in the bible, then she should ONLY have to read the bible.

this wasnt a debate about whats in the bible. This was about what Catholics believe. Not where they get there beliefs from. Dont take this thread off track.

 

[Agent]

So are you admitting that the universals need more then the Bible to explain what they believe in, they need books written by men and credos and hierarchy other then Jesus as their head? if so, then that is a difference between the protestant and universal (catholic) movements

 

[stray bullet]

Well, there are a lot of diferences. to sum a few of them up: the Pope is supposdlty the direct descendent of St Peter which they claim was the first pope (not biblically founded),

It is biblically and historically founded. The office of Pope was established with Peter.

they worship Mary the mother of Jesus and pray to her, They pray to other 'saints' as if they were Jesus or God, and they worship the symbols like the cross, pictures of virgin mary, and those are of top my head, really quickly.

No, we do not pray to other saints as if they were Jesus or God. We only ask saints to pray for us to Jesus and God, according to Catholicism, that is the extent of what they have to offer. Asking Mary to pray for us is founded on the ideas:
-Those in Heaven can hear us (as all will be revealed in Heaven)
-Asking people to pray for you is perfectly okay