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simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
ie. CONSCIENCE..... guilty...... that's why they HID (as if!) FROM the CREATOR !
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ie. CONSCIENCE..... guilty...... that's why they HID (as if!) FROM the CREATOR !I think all these people trying to make it metaphorical are missing the point. Maybe it is a metaphor, but first of all, it's literal. Don't complicate it. Before, they weren't sexually aware, after, they were, and felt the need to wear clothes.
That's not so surprising. The enemy helps do that with multitudes (billions of people).I am constantly impressed that Christians (like me) can come up with so many wildly different interpretations of the same Bible verse(s).
v4-5 But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
v7 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.
what exactly did Adam and Even "not know" before eating the fruit. The serpent tells them if they eat the fruit they will know the difference between good and evil... do we accept this? After they ate it, they knew they were naked. being naked is neither good/evil yet Adam and Eve knew they were naked after eating the fruit and before it seems they did not. To me this seems to be about either shame or the lust of being naked that they experienced. They always knew their bodies weren't covered but something was different after eating the fruit that uncovered bodies meant something else.
so how does Adam and Eve knowing they were naked connect with them knowing good and evil? if they didn't know good and evil how were they to know that following God was good and following the serpent was evil?
What is "Gineskoed?"
v4-5 But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
v7 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.
what exactly did Adam and Even "not know" before eating the fruit. The serpent tells them if they eat the fruit they will know the difference between good and evil... do we accept this? After they ate it, they knew they were naked. being naked is neither good/evil yet Adam and Eve knew they were naked after eating the fruit and before it seems they did not. To me this seems to be about either shame or the lust of being naked that they experienced. They always knew their bodies weren't covered but something was different after eating the fruit that uncovered bodies meant something else.
so how does Adam and Eve knowing they were naked connect with them knowing good and evil? if they didn't know good and evil how were they to know that following God was good and following the serpent was evil?
Being naked means, not having a covering for your sin. Their eyes being opened means they could see. In other words, they understood that their good works weren't enough, they needed a saviour.
That's not so surprising. The enemy helps do that with multitudes (billions of people).
What is surprising, is that the Father can do with those who trust Him, rely on Him, and do as He says (i.e. don't try to interpret what HE says is not open to interpretation).
Instead, as Jesus Praised the Father : PRAISE YOU FATHER IN HEAVEN,
for REVEALING Salvation and everything concerning Salvation
to little children (who don't interpret, for one; pure, innocent, forgiven little children)..
AND (this is the good part)
HIDING IT from the educated ones (who love to interpret) ....
Just reading the words of scripture is an interpretation in itself. But something that we all too easily forget is that scripture itself is already an interpretation.
you quickly go to the spiritual. how does the text inform us that what Adam and Eve saw was uniquely spiritual and not physical? I'm still not quite clear how you reconcile the realization that they are physically naked with this spiritual nakedness and how the text gets us there. it makes for a good devotion but where is it in the text?
hmm... can we say that Gen 1-2 as well? I tend to agree, yet when I speak of Gen 1 this way there's a lot of backlash.If you try to understand the physical, you are completely missing the point.
The spiritual is all there is, and all that matters.
hmm... can we say that Gen 1-2 as well? I tend to agree, yet when I speak of Gen 1 this way there's a lot of backlash.
Consistency is what I'm aiming at
why are you interested in my interpretation of Gen 1:2? you realize I said Gen 1-2, meaning chapter 1 and chapter 2 (since the OP is more focused on chapter 3). But as I said I agree with you as you said it clear "If you try to understand the physical, you are completely missing the point. The spiritual is all there is, and all that matters."Well, if you let scripture interpret scripture, consistency is what you'll get.
If you take one verse and try and interpret it by itself, inconsistency and heresy is what you'll end up with.
I'm kind of curious about your understanding of Gen 1:2?
I don't remember, and I don't think you did. Someone else did though......Yeah, did I say otherwise?
That's where people get mixed up. (Instead of believing Yahuweh, what He Says, thinking it needs interpreted) (the whole definition/ meaning/ history of the word has been changed for everyone, almost)Just reading the words of scripture is an interpretation in itself. But something that we all too easily forget is that scripture itself is already an interpretation.
v4-5 But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
v7 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.
what exactly did Adam and Even "not know" before eating the fruit. The serpent tells them if they eat the fruit they will know the difference between good and evil... do we accept this? After they ate it, they knew they were naked. being naked is neither good/evil yet Adam and Eve knew they were naked after eating the fruit and before it seems they did not. To me this seems to be about either shame or the lust of being naked that they experienced. They always knew their bodies weren't covered but something was different after eating the fruit that uncovered bodies meant something else.
so how does Adam and Eve knowing they were naked connect with them knowing good and evil? if they didn't know good and evil how were they to know that following God was good and following the serpent was evil?
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